Golf 118 TSI Engine Failures and Service Campaign 24S4

[Mk R]

LOL it is very addictive.

Have you gotten lowering springs? If not then those might be worth your while looking into before the lightweight wheels.

Yeah, got the VWR sport springs and adjustable Whiteline sway bars set to medium. Sits low but still looks stock unless it's next to another golf...

[The_Hawk]

Part of me wants a little more lows on my car...

But then I sort of like not having all the clearance issues I had last time around

Then there is question of which coils... or bags...

[JS118tsi]

Just checked my Golf... it has the 24s4 recall sticker... is this good? Was done in 2010.....

[JS118tsi]

So it seems the 24S4 is the ECU upgrade/retune/software.... This makes me a bit less stressed now.... also has the DSG Mechatronics recall 3xxx (or something)
Im guessing, i can relax a little bit now? Besides the clutch packs wearing out?

Thanks for the help everyone...

[Rawcpoppa]

Yup you can relax a bit. I do worry about pistons made before 2012 though.

[Mk R]

Yup you can relax a bit. I do worry about pistons made before 2012 though.

Yeah, even if it does crack a piston, it's not the end of the world. There's so many of these cars out there you can get a low km 2012 CAVD block or, as per one of the threads here, even a newer CTHD block from a wrecker installed for about 3 grand here in Aus if you don't go to a VW dealer. That's from experience too.

If you're savvy you could probably even sell the old block or its parts for a few bucks too.

[The_Hawk]

Yup you can relax a bit. I do worry about pistons made before 2012 though.

I've wondered about this for a while... Assuming it's "only" a piston that lets go, what sort of damage happens? Are we talking a relatively straight forward replacement of the piston(s) or does the debris just grenade it's way through the rest of the engine anyway?

[Rawcpoppa]

Think it mostly is confined to the pistons. Most get them replaced at the dealer here. If mine went I would replace with forged Pistons and go stage 2 immediately.

[Mk R]

Think it mostly is confined to the pistons. Most get them replaced at the dealer here. If mine went I would replace with forged Pistons and go stage 2 immediately.

I asked my mechanic and he costed it. To source the parts assuming pistons, rings, etc was AUD 1,800 without labour to open that mess up. If you're unlucky the cracked piston will scour the inside of the cylinder too. The alternative is getting a ~20,000km 2012 central block from a wrecker for about AUD 2,000 and inserting it for AUD 1,000 to AUD 1,500.

The value proposition (including lost time) was pretty clear, plus the supply of engines from wreckers is fantastic since there tons of them on the road. I went for the wrecker engine and now test for compression at each service. If i start to lose compression again I might open up my old engine, which i kept, and source some serious custom internals. Or then again maybe just get another block from a wrecker.

I ended up with a late 2011 CAVD block and compression is testing constant and solid at each service. I run stage 1 and give it plenty of punishment. These engines are awesome and unique, i don't mind forking out a bit for such a fun car and for such a big overhaul the price was very cheap.

It might be worth us keeping track of all the latest part numbers for critical components as time goes on...

[JS118tsi]

Thanks for the info everyone

The Mk6 Golf is a great car with alot of kit when fully optioned! The 118tsi is a punchy engine... surprises people ha-ha.

[The_Hawk]

The alternative is getting a ~20,000km 2012 central block from a wrecker for about AUD 2,000 and inserting it for AUD 1,000 to AUD 1,500.

The straight up swap is a great idea, but I have to wonder what the cost difference is if you were to swap in the GTI motor and gearbox. For a normal Golf it's probably less worthwhile but with my Cabriolet it would create something that just isn't available in Australia so is far more attractive. Of course it's something I don't want to have to do... but if that day were ever to come it's a path I'd seriously look at.

[Mk R]

The straight up swap is a great idea, but I have to wonder what the cost difference is if you were to swap in the GTI motor and gearbox. For a normal Golf it's probably less worthwhile but with my Cabriolet it would create something that just isn't available in Australia so is far more attractive. Of course it's something I don't want to have to do... but if that day were ever to come it's a path I'd seriously look at.

I'd normally say it's more work than is worth it but if you wanted to create something unique it'd be fun. The end result would be similar to the tuned twincharger unless you took the new engine to stage 1 too. Then traction becomes a challenge in a FWD. If you ever wanted to sell it you'd have plenty of explaining to do tho.

[bbz1000]

I posted my dilema with my 2010 auto 118 TSI in the Newbie section

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f98/2010-118-tsi-issues-sell-keep-111969.html#post1177033

Any advice from members with experience and similar issues would be great

[Bobster]

I have the piston failure and I'm not going to pass the problem onto someone else.

Does anyone know a law firm that deals with this problem or similar?

Alternatively, assuming I take this to small claims myself, is there any way I can demonstrate this is a design/manufacture fault?

Does being second hand affect the situation from a legal point of view?

[VW Convert]

I have the piston failure and I'm not going to pass the problem onto someone else.

Does anyone know a law firm that deals with this problem or similar?

Alternatively, assuming I take this to small claims myself, is there any way I can demonstrate this is a design/manufacture fault?

Does being second hand affect the situation from a legal point of view?

Lawyer should be the last resort.

How old is the vehicle? How many kilometres has it done? Does it have full service history? How long have you owned it?
Have you spoken to a VW dealer about approaching VW for a claim?

Cheers

George