Golf 118 TSI Engine Failures and Service Campaign 24S4

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Another cracked piston here. Idle became quite rough on Friday and the engine light began flashing. Dropped it in on Monday and was told the bad news. Car has a build date of 02/11 and was purchased 06/11. Despite being out of warranty I have been told that all costs will be covered and a loan car organised for me. Can't fault the customer service thus far but was hoping that I would've avoided this problem having a 2011 build.

That sucks, 2010 build here my 11. I thought it was fixed by our release dates , clearly not!! How many Kay's have you done??

[jameshero]

How many Kay's have you done??

~76,000km, have always used BP ultimate except for a tank of Shell 98 here and there


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[QUOTE=jameshero;1117596]~76,000km, have always used BP ultimate except for a tank of Shell 98 here and there



Yeah I'm around 70,000km here always use shell vpower! It's not looking good, clearly it seems this engine is a damn lemon!!

So you getting an engine rebuild? Let us know how it all pans out.

Good luck

[Stefano82]

Hi all,
I'm Stefano. I have a GOLF MK6 with the notorius 118 TSI engine!
I'm sad to hear you in Australia have MY 11 engine failures. My car is MY11 and it was born with the 24s4 update. Today my engine has 100.000 KM with no problem.
When the car had 70.000 I executed a remap to increase power but also to increase injection and lower piston edges peak of temperature.
Reading the dedicated thread I can find the same problems and considerations of Italian forums but now we haven't a lot of MY11 failure cases to understand if the issue is definitely solved or not!
Thanks,
S.

[sisilet]

I've just got my engine lamp lit. after using OBD2 reader to check the error code, it shows P0301 cylinder 1 misfire detected. my factory warranty has just ended in dec. Is it likely a spark plug issue? should I send my car to VW to check? anyone has similar experience? how much did you end up spend on fixing it?

[Stefano82]

First check or replace the coil pack. If the problem is not solved you need to do a compression test to verify if the cylinder is still good.

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I've just got my engine lamp lit. after using OBD2 reader to check the error code, it shows P0301 cylinder 1 misfire detected. my factory warranty has just ended in dec. Is it likely a spark plug issue? should I send my car to VW to check? anyone has similar experience? how much did you end up spend on fixing it?

Yes take your care to Vw. It's just out of warranty and I'm sure they'll do a goodwill repair considering it's only 3 years old. As long as you have kept up the servicing

[sisilet]

Thanks

[syd]

Hi all - we've just had an engine rebuild on our 2010 TSi. All pistons replaced as one had cracked, but not a crated in engine.
We're trying to decide whether to now keep this car with the rebuilt engine (as it's got nice specs and drives well when it's working), or does the engine still suffer from a fundamental design issue, and the rebuilt engine will also fail sooner than other less stressed engines?
I guess in the same boat as the earlier poster Alissa http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...ml#post1056567

What I'm reading between the lines is that with the revised ECU, a rebuilt engine should be OK. But, there's always the issue with the DSG gearbox.

I'd just like the car to work without major failure for at least the next 4-5 years.

[jameshero]

So you getting an engine rebuild? Let us know how it all pans out.

Got the car back today, was a rebuild. Cost was fully covered despite being out of warranty by 8 months. All Pistons were replaced and there's a 2 year warranty on the repair.

Had previously had a new timing chain tensioner fitted but following the rebuild there were timing issues so a new tensioner and chain were fitted. Could a stretched timing chain have caused the issue?


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[tigger73]

Got the car back today, was a rebuild. Cost was fully covered despite being out of warranty by 8 months. All Pistons were replaced and there's a 2 year warranty on the repair.

Had previously had a new timing chain tensioner fitted but following the rebuild there were timing issues so a new tensioner and chain were fitted. Could a stretched timing chain have caused the issue?


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Good to hear that you weren't out of pocket (apart from the inconvenience). Given the history on these engines I'd suggest that it would have happened irrespective of the timing chain though this probably wouldn't have helped.

It's going to be that they put the young tech on the job with minimal/no supervision. One of my bugbears with dealer servicing is they use the lowest cost labour and charge the highest rates.

And if they stuff up they can usually get either VW or the customer to pay.




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[minke]

One of my bugbears with dealer servicing is they use the lowest cost labour and charge the highest rates.

I know a major German brand on the lower north shore at one stage (early 2000s) had 2 qualified mechanics and 10 apprentices.

[tigger73]

I know a major German brand on the lower north shore at one stage (early 2000s) had 2 qualified mechanics and 10 apprentices.

I rest my case.

[baekea]

Another MY10 118TSI Golf (wagon) to add to the list with two cracked pistons. Happened about a week ago about 80km from home and the car was towed straight to the local VW dealer.

Have recently heard back that Head Office will cover 100% of costs of an engine replacement which I'm relieved about. Not sure if I'll hang on to the car, but will see how it behaves with the new engine ... and see how the DSG behaves too.

[tigger73]

Golf 118 TSI Engine Failures: Resolved via Service Campaign 24S4

If it's a new engine you should be good for another 80,000km

Seriously I think the engines getting built now are a lot better than those 5 years ago. Plus software has been changed to fix a lot of the issues.

It's quite possible that damage has been done to your old engine prior to the software updates to "fix" the issue. The new engine running the latest software from brand new should theoretically have a lot longer life expectancy.

So with a new engine and the latest software I'd be fairly confident that it should last another 5+ years.

As to whether to hang onto it that's a personal decision that only you can make. One has to question how much longer VW will continue to fix these cars for "free" and when they wipe their hands of the problem. You probably don't want to be owning the vehicle when this happens.

The 7 speed DSG... well that's another story for a different thread.


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