Golf GTD

[gregozedobe]

I'm told it is unlikely my options list will be on a stock model, unfortunately.

Maybe you could convince your dealer to get a "stock" car in that just happened to be the correct colour and has the right set of options ? That would be a win/win situation for you both.

[STV4SYT]

I'm told it is unlikely my options list will be on a stock model, unfortunately.

Unfortunately if u want to be first to have one, u gotta take what is available at the time, or wait up to 6 months to get a special order.

I didnt get all the options i wanted on the GTI but i get to drive it every day and that to me is worth more than missing out on a few bells and whistles, AND it cost me less too.

A lot of the stuff i missed out on i can retro fit anyway.

[dencar]

Maybe you could convince your dealer to get a "stock" car in that just happened to be the correct colour and has the right set of options ? That would be a win/win situation for you both.

Sadly, I'm told that is not possible from the launch shipment. You'd think CW, satnav and rear view camera, park assist, ACC and bi-xenons would be easy. I wanted adaptive cruise control, too, but am told by VWA that

With this in mind, I have done further investigations into your
concerns. Adapative Cruise Control is not currently a feature of the
Volkswagen Golf (all models) or future Golf GTD due to the technology
having not been adapted to suit this model in our range.

This despite it being sold on Golfs in the UK. To be continued....

[pologti18t]

Sadly, I'm told that is not possible from the launch shipment. You'd think CW, satnav and rear view camera, park assist, ACC and bi-xenons would be easy....

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i would have thought that would be hard... not a combo most dealers would like hanging around a showroom

[MariusGT]

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i would have thought that would be hard... not a combo most dealers would like hanging around a showroom

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and just a question (not having a go): why on earth would you need park assist AND rear view camera?

[Corey_R]

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and just a question (not having a go): why on earth would you need park assist AND rear view camera?

Because Park Assist won't tell you that there is a child sitting behind your car etc. So I figure it goes hand in hand

Rear visibility of the Golf is not good. So despite it being a 'small car' (even though it's medium, and larger than old commodores!) and relatively easy for the experienced driver to park, it still doesn't mean that the experienced driver won't hit a child - because you just can't see it without a RVC.

[Pauly]

Because Park Assist won't tell you that there is a child sitting behind your car etc. So I figure it goes hand in hand

Rear visibility of the Golf is not good. So despite it being a 'small car' (even though it's medium, and larger than old commodores!) and relatively easy for the experienced driver to park, it still doesn't mean that the experienced driver won't hit a child - because you just can't see it without a RVC.

Adding onto what coreying said. The Reversing Camera is dirt cheap ($500) to option on. With the ammount you will prob save by haggeling with the dealer, your technically be getting it for nothing.

And as coreying said, Park Assist will not tell you if a small child, dog, cat etc is behind the car. For $500, it's a no brainer.

Park Assist is also 3 things in 1

Front and Rear parking sensors
Automatic parallel parking
Automatic passenger side dipping mirrror when in reverse. (have you ever seen peoples cars with scratched up rims/ hubcaps?, by having this feature it will no longer happen).

[Pearso888]

Hi all,

Just want to get peoples thoughts on the GTD i'm thinking of putting a deposit down on one, so i can preorder one. Does anyone know if dealers will be able to preorder or will they just be given stock initial and orders wont be prosessed until after release?

Also i understand that the GTD is very similar to the GT TDI that was release as part of the Mk5 series does anyone here own one and is willing to give me a run down on what it is like to drive. I've always been keen on the GTI but my wife being a greenie wants me to get a diesel.

[hoi polloi]

I've always been keen on the GTI but my wife being a greenie wants me to get a diesel.

Too easy... Trade the wife in on the GTI...



*joke*

- Anthony.

[Pearso888]

Too easy... Trade the wife in on the GTI...



*joke*

- Anthony.

The thought has crossed my mind

[Greg Roles]

Hi all,

Just want to get peoples thoughts on the GTD i'm thinking of putting a deposit down on one, so i can preorder one. Does anyone know if dealers will be able to preorder or will they just be given stock initial and orders wont be prosessed until after release?

Also i understand that the GTD is very similar to the GT TDI that was release as part of the Mk5 series does anyone here own one and is willing to give me a run down on what it is like to drive. I've always been keen on the GTI but my wife being a greenie wants me to get a diesel.

To be brutally honest, driving a diesel isn't a whole lot better than a normal petrol car such as the 1.4 TSI. Sure the petrol car uses more fuel per year, and produces more CO2, but so too does the diesel engine produce more of other pollutants, particularily NO and particulates. Now NO is simply bad stuff, but perhaps even more insidious is the supposedly "clean" diesels these days with particulate filters. What these do is basically process the old school black "soot" down to microscopic size, and basically hide it from sight, but the car is still producing soot particulates. Current research mainly from germany is suggesting that these new microscopic particulates are crossing directly into the blood stream, whereas before whilst they looked bad, you generally just coughed them back up. It seems that DPF's may be hiding the soot, but causing a much larger health problem. Still under investigation, but I figure it's a long way from true "clean" technology.

I have a MKV GT TDI. It's all mid range, and has a very obvious turbo lag down low. The power comes on with a major wack, and it's not an easy car to drive smoothly in a manual. Also, in manual form, you spend a lot of time changing gears, so I'd highly recommend a DSG version. I went manual for both strength and long term survival, but DSG is definately a better thing for the diesel TDI as far as ease of living with it is concerned.

The car is rough down low, off boost, and you really have to "drive around" the lag and the narrow 2000rpm powerband. Personally I love it, but I can see why it certainly wouldn't be many people's cup of tea. The common rail version in the MK6 will be both a lot quieter, more refined, and I suspect a whole lot better off boost, so I'd expect power delivery and refinement to be a lot better than my MK V.

That said, the Common Rail comes with even more emission systems, so if you ever want to go full greenie and run biofuel, it's going to be even more complex. Common rail fuel pumps are also super sensitive to the fuel quality used, and mega expensive to repair, so bio would be a much bigger risk in the Mk6.

Gale Banks, THE diesel tuner in the USA, reckons the tuning capability of the MKV PD mechanical injection is 25-30% more whereas common rail towards 60% may be possible! Way more tuning capability, but current tunes are showing the older MKV PD system achieves a lot more torque. I'd hazzard a guess it's simply a matter of time to allow the tuners to fully extract the possibilities from the latest MK6.

I wouldn't rule out a GTI, it's not like it is using insane amounts of fuel like the sexy, but thirsty R32. THAT is a long way from green!

[G-rig]

That's what i thought, diesel is good for economy but not really any better than petrol for the environment??

[nau]

just thinking out loud... just drove my friends loan mini diesel...runs ok fun and small BUT it makes sooooooooo much noise on acceleration, I dont have much experience with diesels but holyf.... that car was louder thn v6 commodore next to me....
Im so glad that I didnt go with idea of waiting for GTD....

[hoi polloi]

just thinking out loud... just drove my friends loan mini diesel...runs ok fun and small BUT it makes sooooooooo much noise on acceleration, I dont have much experience with diesels but holyf.... that car was louder thn v6 commodore next to me....
Im so glad that I didnt go with idea of waiting for GTD....

The Mini diesel is quite clattery... The Golf is very refined - for a diesel... Despite this the diesel versions will always be noisier than the equivalent petrol versions...

Regards,
- Anthony.

[Timbo]

Hi all,

Just want to get peoples thoughts on the GTD i'm thinking of putting a deposit down on one, so i can preorder one. Does anyone know if dealers will be able to preorder or will they just be given stock initial and orders wont be prosessed until after release?

Also i understand that the GTD is very similar to the GT TDI that was release as part of the Mk5 series does anyone here own one and is willing to give me a run down on what it is like to drive. I've always been keen on the GTI but my wife being a greenie wants me to get a diesel.

We have a MkV GT TDI DSG, and love it. We test drove a manual and, as cogdoc says, it is a bit of pain because of the power band. DSG covers the turbo lag quite well. Ours has averaged 5.9L/100k over 30,000 ks. As a comparison, my S3 is averaging 9.3L/100 over around the same ks, with similar trips, although I probably drive it in a little more 'spirited' fashion. For most regular driving, you won't notice much difference in pleasure between the GTD and GTI, but if you really, really want the full driving experience, then the GTI is the better.

We'll replace the MkV with a MkVI GTD next year, and if Audi (or VW) released a model with the TDI 125Kw motor, AWD and DSG in Australia, I'd have it in a heartbeat