Golf R 3 door/5 door speculation/information thread

[G-rig]

3dr scirocco r isbxloae enough to a 5dr golf R bust shame AUS gets screwed over again.

[Lima]

This today on GoAuto. Looks like the R and the GTD should be here mid-year as expected.

Interesting to see more detail on the std equipment.

No 3dr would suck harder that that Godfreys geezer.

[Pauly]

Well with Go Auto confirming one thing:

CLOTH WILL BE STANDARD.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/FFDCCF97A8DC3D7BCA2576D10082AA51

"and sports seats with Alcantara/black mesh cloth trim."

pretty much confirms what I was saying previously. So that is how they are going to be reducing the cost of it.

If the R32 3 Door Manual was $54,990
then I would expect the Golf R, without leather to be around the $51K mark.

However the lack of a 3 door Golf R really puts me off.

“At this stage we’re looking only at the five-door.”

Now im hoping! that they have done this for a reason, and are looking at importing the Scirocco R to replace the 3 Door Golf R. In which case I wont be so sour, and will definitly look at getting this.

from memory was Juta Direks was working with VW, I emailed her a few times regarding the Scirocco, and her email address was Juta.Direks@volkswagen.com.au.

So if you want give:

Karl.Gehling@volkwagen.com.au

a try? and see if you can get more details out of him.

[Tim]

Anke.Koeckler@volkswagen.com.au is the new head of VWA I believe.

Someone send her an email and ask wtf her views are on the brand image of VW.

[G-rig]

This would make the choice for an S3 or 135i that much easier, as well as VW being coy about pricing and standard equipment.

[WhiteJames]

The U.K. dealers have snapped up their total 2010 allocation of 350 Golf R's and its only Feb 2010. U.K. dealers are asking for 50 more R's in right hand drive.

Now, if Aus has an allocated number of 3 and 5 door R's, it may pay to re-allocate the 3 doors destined for the Aus market to the U.K market.

Esp in light of Volkswagen U.K. selling the Golf R at a 2K GBP premium to the Audi S3, and that's with std cloth seats.

Here in Aus, they have to ensure the R comes in at under the LCT threshold (57K), with the Aus market demanding leather as std for a top of the range anything.

Most obvious place in saving costs on the Golf R is the lower import duty of 5% and deletion of leather on the std specced vehicle.

Have you guys read the latest Golf R review in the Aussie Top Gear Magazine?

Cheers.
WJ

[Pauly]

This would make the choice for an S3 or 135i that much easier, as well as VW being coy about pricing and standard equipment.

Hell it isnt just those. Even a 123d or a 125i would go down well. Mini JCW. Why not put the Golf GTI 3 door in there with basically every option added?

The only other car that could eclipse the 3 door Golf R, is the Scirocco R...

Common VW Australia, you know that every reviewer and person who knows about the Scirocco, wants it to come here.

You have made the perfect chance to import at least 1 varient on it. So do it!!!

NO 3 DOOR GOLF R = ME WALKING to another car brand (and im sure many others)

OR

You can keep us, if you import the Scirocco R.

[graeme86]

You have to virtually order it special anyway due to the expected waiting list...so VW Australia...what the hell difference does it make whether you order a three door or a five door?

[G-rig]

They should bloody announce it so you could get in the waiting line at least. By the time the scirocco ever makes it over here the MK7 will be out.

[JVLR32]

**** me...just read 5pages here wat a laugh
Might as well go back and build the real golf...R32.....sorry couldnt help myself

[Pauly]

Well for me, no 3 door = very little chance of me wanting it. The only thing that will sway me over is the price. If they can get it under a fully (almost fully) optioned up 3 door GTI, then it maybe something worth while.

But:
- No 3 door
- No standard leather
- less power (only gaining 4KW over the R32)

so I hope they do 1 of 2 things.

1. Bring the Scirocco R in to replace the 3 door Golf R
2. Reduce the cost of the Golf R to the high 40's/ low 50k.

I also hope that VW have their heads screwed on properly and know that they can't be asking premium prices for the Golf R when they are removing kit and options.

It needs to come in under the luxuary car tax threshold, and having a reduced import tarrif of 5% should also help.

Deep down though... I want the Scirocco R.

[Corey_R]

I've emailed Karl - so we'll see if he responds at all. I urge everyone else that wants a 3 door to email him too though.
I'm personally not fussed over the Scirocco R - it's not too my requirements, and it's not AWD, so for me I'd just get a 3dr GTI... but more likely I just wouldn't get another VW....

[Pauly]

I've emailed Karl - so we'll see if he responds at all. I urge everyone else that wants a 3 door to email him too though.
I'm personally not fussed over the Scirocco R - it's not too my requirements, and it's not AWD, so for me I'd just get a 3dr GTI... but more likely I just wouldn't get another VW....

Well I would urge anyone who wants the 3 Door Golf R and/or the Scircco R to contact him.

I am getting abit sick of the excuses for not importing the Scirocco here. If VW NZ can have it, so can we.

They have made the perfect chance to import it now by excluding the 3 Door Golf R from the line up. So they should just go ahead and do it.

[WhiteJames]

Want a Sirocco R - Buy a 3 door GTI, add coilovers & aftermarket ECU re-tune and you have a Sirocco type vehicle.

Top Gear Australia's Steve Corby was in Austria for the release of the R. He had the R for drives in Germany and Czech Republic. He had the Golf R on the autobahn, where it is designed to excel in this environment. Averaged 180kph for half hour and 160kph for 2 hour drive. States R likes a drink at those speeds, nowhere near the 8.5l/100km claim figure. He'd still take the long-term GTI Top Gear Aus has on hand atm.

July/August 2010 is a long wait for all involved. I think I'll keep my Mark 6 GTI for 4 years and look at the Mark 7 Golf R. AWD not as great a necessity for a GTI with std ECU tune. By MK7 R time, Volkswagen should be using some more exotic materials to save more weight and improve economy, not to mention the EA888 motor will be tuned accordingly.

Cheers
WJ

[G-rig]

Agree with all the comments, sounds like the Golf R won't be a premium vechicle like the R32 at least in terms of standard equipment (ie Leather/Bi-xenons), so lets hope they don't charge premium prices. In reality it's only a bit better than a GTI and in NZ i think AWD was a 3k option or something.

Look like a lot of people could be looking elsewhere if there is no 3 R or Scirocco R. WJ agree that a modded GTI would be just as fun underneath but it's the style and unique looks of the Rocco that is what most people like about it.

I still think a GTI witout too many options is the best value.