Golf R 3 door/5 door speculation/information thread

[WhiteJames]

Here's another review by the Hamster from Top Gear:

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/cars-motorbikes/tag/golf

Cheers.
WJ

[ccpl]

Keeping the large turbo cool demands a lot of fuel, as fuel has a cooling effect in addition to providing ignition.

Fuel has nothing to do with keeping the turbo cool in any late model fuel injected car. Turbo's are cooled either via engine oil, or via coolant and engine oil combined (seperate lines of course). Fuel never even gets near the turbo of any "blow through" (turbo compresses air before the throttle body) turbo setup (which is pretty much 100% of cars these days)

The only turbo's that were ever inadvertently cooled by fuel would have been the old draw through (turbo compresses air after the throttle body) carby setups - even then, the majority of the cooling was still provided by oil/coolant.

What you may have been referring to is keeping the fuel mixture rich in the combustion chamber, as to decrease combustion chamber temperatures. Evo's/STi's tend to run very rich at top end on stock tunes to ensure that they dont lean out and melting things.

[Tim]

Fuel has nothing to do with keeping the turbo cool in any late model fuel injected car. Turbo's are cooled either via engine oil, or via coolant and engine oil combined (seperate lines of course). Fuel never even gets near the turbo of any "blow through" (turbo compresses air before the throttle body) turbo setup (which is pretty much 100% of cars these days)

The only turbo's that were ever inadvertently cooled by fuel would have been the old draw through (turbo compresses air after the throttle body) carby setups - even then, the majority of the cooling was still provided by oil/coolant.

What you may have been referring to is keeping the fuel mixture rich in the combustion chamber, as to decrease combustion chamber temperatures. Evo's/STi's tend to run very rich at top end on stock tunes to ensure that they dont lean out and melting things.

running too lean increases exhaust gas temps. Aaaaaaand guess where the exhaust gasses go!? Person who gets the right answer gets a gold star!

[gtimal]

running too lean increases exhaust gas temps. Aaaaaaand guess where the exhaust gasses go!? Person who gets the right answer gets a gold star!

Extra fuel in the combustion chamber can cool the charge & nitrous .

Cheers

[ccpl]

running too lean increases exhaust gas temps. Aaaaaaand guess where the exhaust gasses go!? Person who gets the right answer gets a gold star!

Ah yes, but fuel does not directly correlate to the cooling of the turbo, which is what I was correcting.

[dave_r]

Feb release? Why would they release the specs and price in Feb for a car not due to May/June/July?

So they can pre-sell the innitial stock!

What he said, but because I'm sure I'd read last year that info would be released in Feb. Not to mention the fact that my dealer at the time of pre-order informed me that they were being told the final spec and pricing in Feb. I need to pull the finger out and make a call.

Additionally, its great that the R has an additional pump for the haldex system to push drive to the rear prior to any actual slip, longer term: will this pump be reliable?

That's what warranty is for, then sell to someone else and move onto something better

[dave_r]

I need to pull the finger out and make a call.

Dealer has changed their tune from info in Feb to most likely nothing substantial until mid year....blah!

[Glennb]

Dealer has changed their tune from info in Feb to most likely nothing substantial until mid year....blah!

ahh crap!
With 5+ month waits on the GTI, it's gonna be a long time before i get my new car either way (GTI or R) as i was waiting on more info before ordering the R!

[dave_r]

ahh crap!
With 5+ month waits on the GTI, it's gonna be a long time before i get my new car either way (GTI or R) as i was waiting on more info before ordering the R!

Yeh I wanted to have a GTI contingency order, just in case the R didn't turn out as I wanted but they won't really do it and I don't want to be stuck with 2 cars.

[graeme86]

OOOOh.....flapper mod possible!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VUaFs_IgIA

[Spook]

This today on GoAuto. Looks like the R and the GTD should be here mid-year as expected.

“The three-door represents quite a small proportion of (potential) sales for us, so we’re looking at consolidating the line up,” said VGA spokesman Karl Gehling. “At this stage we’re looking only at the five-door.”

Other unique Golf R features will include bi-Xenon headlights, a black grille and wing mirrors, new front and rear bumpers, a gloss-black rear diffuser with twin central exhaust outlets, flared wheel-arches, aluminium ‘R’ scuff plates, blue-needled instruments, gloss-black detailing throughout and sports seats with Alcantara/black mesh cloth trim.

[graeme86]

This bit made me laugh....well more of a guffaw really

In terms of peak power output, that will put Australia’s Golf R just 4kW ahead of the petrol 3.2-litre V6-powered R32 it replaces.

[G-rig]

yeah economy weight and power after modding will all be better, as well as build quality in general.

[Corey_R]

“The three-door represents quite a small proportion of (potential) sales for us, so we’re looking at consolidating the line up,” said VGA spokesman Karl Gehling. “At this stage we’re looking only at the five-door.”

Does anyone have Karl's email address? If the Golf R isn't available in a 3 door, then I'll buy a BMW instead. Seriously... even the GTI is available in 3 door, so why would you have the even sportier 'hot hatch' only available in 'family form' ?

[Tim]

That is the most retarded thing i have ever heard. Hopefully they are trying to make way for the Scirocco R with a stupid decision like that.