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  • #91
    True, but in the GTI if you're tyres are fine and you're on a road which has even grip between your left and right wheels, it doesn't exhibit torque steer, you'll usually just lose grip in both wheels at a similar time.

    The guy in the review of the 300KW GTI said it did have some, but bugger all. In my MKV Stage II GTI with 205KW, I couldn't get any at all in the dry, and only slightly in the wet if I purposely turned off the ECU and then irresponsibly put my foot to the floor from a stand still*. Then in that situation the car would usually start moving off in the direction of the camber of the road, rather than always to the left or right. I can't imagine VW have changed the MK6 for the worse in this respect.

    *Note that with the original Bridgestone tyres the car would just bounce and shudder, but that was fixed by getting a different brand of tyre
    Last edited by Corey_R; 19-01-2010, 07:55 PM.

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    • #92
      Unfortunately on real roads there is loose asphalt, oil, and general debris that makes uneven grip extremely common. Weight shifting also promotes wheelspin in a FWD.

      Hey, I'm not bagging our beloved Golf, I'm just making the point that AWD does indeed have its advantages in this case.
      GTI MKVI Candy White | 5 door | DSG | ACC | 18" Detroits | Leather | Electric Seat | Sunroof | RNS510 | Dynaudio | Park Assist | RVC | MDI

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      • #93
        Oh undoubtly... but it's more to do with that little issue you just mentioned there... Weight shifting! Plus the fact that 4 wheels have more grip than 2

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        • #94
          You may not notice AWD until going towards the limit or in the wet but it does remain more composed and holds on better. As others have said RWD and AWD are most desireable, but i'd still love to have a GTI and just as good in most situations.

          They are all good and better than the other hot hatches in the market!

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          • #95
            I'd settle for a RWD GTI

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            • #96
              Originally posted by G-rig View Post
              Was going to ask what options. Did you go for the blue? Wonder how white would be?
              I just said to them look up the Frankfurt motor show photos and I want THAT blue hehe. I still have no idea what it is even called
              I added the sunroof on the assumption that leather and xenons will be standard carried over from the R32.

              With the pre-orders I believe they will just bring in X number of cars in a range of colour and specs. Then just match up pre-orders as close as possible. I said I was happy to take the 19" upgrade and recaros if the price was right

              But I have been told by another dealer since that the RRP will be low 60's, ACC standard but not leather. But to be honest, the information presented wasn't THAT convincing. They did say that there will be ZERO discounting until 2011 as most likely after the initial batch, might only be 1 more shipment in 2010. That sounded fairly reasonable though.

              Gotta say though after seeing these photos...
              Originally posted by davka View Post
              How good does white with black wheels look? Damn you davka!!! Nah, blue all the way. I double take every time I see a blue R32.

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              • #97
                I wish we had the pricing information already. It's frustrating not knowing. lol.
                2019 BMW M3 CS

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by dave- View Post
                  Gotta say though after seeing these photos...

                  How good does white with black wheels look? Damn you davka!!! Nah, blue all the way. I double take every time I see a blue R32.
                  Yeah I like white with black as well, but it's a more alternate look but still cheapens the look of the car IMO. Blue looks great in all the promo shots.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by G-rig View Post
                    Yeah I like white with black as well, but it's a more alternate look but still cheapens the look of the car IMO. Blue looks great in all the promo shots.
                    Agree with you there. I got the press shot as the background on my laptop, desktop and netbook hehe. It's mesmerising!

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                    • Originally posted by elisiX View Post
                      I wish we had the pricing information already. It's frustrating not knowing. lol.
                      Yeah more frustrating than waiting 4-6 months to get the fking thing.

                      Originally posted by dave- View Post
                      Agree with you there. I got the press shot as the background on my laptop, desktop and netbook hehe. It's mesmerising!
                      Blue still gets dusty pretty quick (similar to black) but if you wash it once a week not really a problem. I still wouldn't mind CW next time.

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                      • Originally posted by G-rig View Post
                        Blue still gets dusty pretty quick (similar to black) but if you wash it once a week not really a problem.
                        Have lived with a similar colour before. Wouldn't do it again if it was parked out side though, but that is cruelty to cars!

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                        • I currently dont have an undercover park at work but been parking at the shops (undercover), don't know how long that will work. Was wondering if White holds up better outside?

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                          • Silver is easy to live with.

                            I'm not a massive one for cleaning and polishing, so went silver last time on the GT and gone white for the GTI

                            Black is by far the best looking colour (On the day that you spend 2 hours washing and polishing it)


                            I thought the Carbon Grey would wear well but have seen a couple of dusty looking ones around.
                            currrently... MY10 GTI | DSG | Candy White | Sunroof | 18's | BT | MDI
                            previously... MY08 GT TDI | DSG | Reflex Silver | Sunroof

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                            • I went with the Carbon over the black because in person, when I had them side by side, I could see the lines of the MKVI better. To me that is important.

                              I actually think the silver and white are great colors for this reason but I prefer the darker look. Black has just been too painful for me in the past.
                              2019 BMW M3 CS

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                              • Originally posted by elisiX View Post
                                I went with the Carbon over the black because in person, when I had them side by side, I could see the lines of the MKVI better. To me that is important.

                                I actually think the silver and white are great colors for this reason but I prefer the darker look. Black has just been too painful for me in the past.
                                My R32 was Black. Best colour ever when clean. As a friend said, the 2 best days you own a black car are the day you buy it and the day you sell it.

                                My new Skoda RS is Candy WHite and I reckon I'll order the R in Candy White. Matching his & hers cars!
                                MY10 Skoda Octavia RS Wagon TSI Candy White DSG Leather Sunroof MDI Bluetooth Tow Tint
                                MY11.5 Mk6 Golf GTI 5dr Candy White DSG Detroits MDI Bluetooth Bi-Xenons RVC Tint R-Tails - SOLD
                                MK5 R32 3dr Black DSG - Loved it
                                MY14 CLA45 AMG

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