Golf 77tdi

[PassatB6]

Anyone buying a 77TDI? Haven't heard any feedback. Comments please!

[Corey_R]

I don't think that many people buy them to be honest.

First is the fact that you only save 0.4L/100km in fuel (7.5%), but give up 26kW and 80Nm (25% each) vs the 103TDI.

Next is that they're only $4500 cheaper than the 103TDI. BUT, it's a Trendline vs a Comfortline. To add the 'Comfort' package you're talking $2200 which halves that price gap. The comfort package adds:
Allow Wheels 15" Wellington (instead of steel wheels with hubcabs!)
Automatic dimming interior rear-view mirror
Cruise Control
Dual Zone Climate Control Air Conditioning.
Foot well illumination
Gearshift knob in leather
Leather trimmed Multi-Function Steering wheel
Multi-Function Display Plus
Automatic Headlights with Coming/Leaving Home Function
Rain sensing Windscreen wipers

Other things you miss with the 77TDI are:
Radiator Grille highlights in Chrome
Anti-theft wheel bolts
Rear seat centre armest with load through provision
'Black Pyramid' insert trim (instead of 'Titanium')
Rear Passenger Reading lights
Shopping Bag hooks (in boot)
Storage box in side lining (in boot)
12 volt socket (in boot)
Comfort Front seats
Height adjustment for front passenger seats
Front seat backrest storage pockets
Better 6 speed 'wet clutch' DSG (instead of newer 'dry clutch' 7 speed DSG)
'Sports Package' not available

I don't know, but I think that all of that is well worth the other $2300 different in price, excluding the performance advantage of the 103TDI.

So all in all, unless you're desperately short of cash, I'm not sure why you would get the 77TDI instead of the 103TDI because $4500 additional is a bargain for all the extra equipment you're getting, and in reality, after negotation, the drive away prices are probably far less than $4500 difference.

Just my opinion, but hope that helps

[JasonP]

I looked at a 77TDI, but ended up buying a 103TDI DSG.

The performance difference was just too great, with marginal fuel savings.

Add in the Comfortline/Trendline differences (above), & it will make up your mind for you.

[neil]

Whats the difference in price between the Golf and Jetta 77tdi
You might get a cheaper Jetta with all there standards over the cheaper Golf standards.
Gee hope that makes sense.

[Corey_R]

Whats the difference in price between the Golf and Jetta 77tdi
You might get a cheaper Jetta with all there standards over the cheaper Golf standards.
Gee hope that makes sense.

There's only $300 difference between the Golf and Jetta 77TDIs. Although the Jetta 77TDI does have more standard features than the Golf, it is still missing many of the Comfortline features. PLUS, it's a 'MKV' instead of a MK6. So...

[Dave8878]

If your looking at the Golf 77TDI then considering the Jetta 77TDI makes alot of sense. As Coreying stated only $300 more and you get:

Alloy Wheels
Front & Rear Parking Sensors
Multi Function Leather Steering Wheel
Mark 6 style Re-designed interior and a few more bits and pieces that I can't think of off the top of my head.

Obviously the Jetta is aimed at a different market but it's a lot of car for your money and if you need the space it's well worth looking at.

Cheers

[pologti18t]

77TDI looks poor value. The base 90TSI seems better value for money

[Corey_R]

77TDI looks poor value. The base 90TSI seems better value for money

Hmmm.... I'd disagree. There is still only a $4500 difference in price between the 90TSI Trendline and 118TSI Comfortline. You still are missing all the same things that I listed in my post above that you'd get from upgrading to the 118TSI Comfortline (except the better 6sp DSG of the 103TDI Comfortline).

The only difference is that since the Petrol models are $2700 cheaper than the Diesel models, that $4500 is a greater % of the total cost.

[pologti18t]

Hmmm.... I'd disagree. There is still only a $4500 difference in price between the 90TSI Trendline and 118TSI Comfortline. You still are missing all the same things that I listed in my post above that you'd get from upgrading to the 118TSI Comfortline (except the better 6sp DSG of the 103TDI Comfortline).

The only difference is that since the Petrol models are $2700 cheaper than the Diesel models, that $4500 is a greater % of the total cost.

I meant that the 90TSI and 77TDI give similar performance (though the 90tsi is faster) and both are economical. You could get a 90TSI with comfort pack for the price of the 77TDI and have a few $100 in the bank for fuel.

[Corey_R]

Yeah - fair enough

[pologti18t]

Road Test

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/769052A0BFE3ADACCA25768C0021E24F

Mentions the turbo lag and the relatively poor value for money of the 77TDI

[PassatB6]

"But is the Golf 77TDI the money saver it seems on paper?

Sadly no. Its performance deficit, combined with the fact that you have to add $2200 for decent equipment levels, means there is only a $2300 gap to the significantly more powerful, enjoyable and only slightly less frugal 103TDI Comfortline. No contest.

Alternatively, if that’s too much of a stretch, save your cash and choose the petrol powered (yet also impressively economical) Golf 90TSI with Comfort pack and pocket the $2700 saving.

No matter which way you look at it, the Golf 77TDI lives in the shadow of its more talented brethren. "


I guess that sums it up?

[Corey_R]

Yeah - basically. The advise to go to the 103TDI if you wanted diesel is what I said, and the advise to go to the 90TSI (with comfort pack) if all you're looking for is value (plus some comfort) is what pologti18t... the only thing bought to the table by that article is an endorsement of this forum's advice! hehe

[elisiX]

You would think that VW would have come to a similar conclusion themselves before releasing such a model.

[Sharkie]

Oettinger will take the (1.6) 77TDI to 110kw/330NM which is more than a 103TDI for less than the $2300 difference .....

So the 77TDI may actually be not too bad .......

You'd get better performance and same spec (Comfortline) for a few $$$ less ....

That 77TDI will be awesome in the new Polo I think.

EDIT: Incidentally it is also better than the 90TSI chipped (100kw/247NM) ....