118TSI - General Discussion

[Diesel_vert]

Well the car is under warranty and I am not sure if the dealer has a way of knowing he used super unless the knock sensor readings are stored in memory.

Anyways he definitely did not keep revs to a minimum and I am sure he put the engine under high or max loads daily to and from work.

I'm surprised by the number of sensors and fail safes this thing has. Then again I am no car buff.

To the poster before Diesel_vert our country only has Ron 95 for our highest spec fuel and theses engines are built to suit. They aren't built for Ron 92 though. I guess he figured once the car "felt" ok with Ron 92 then he was in the clear...guess not!

Yes, as long as you use the correct grade of fuel required (min. 95 RON) you can safely operate the engine without causing any undue damage.

But using the wrong grade or type of fuel is not a warrantable claim, and your friend should be praying that the dealer doesn't find out.

Though if the dealer feels inclined, I suppose they can just get a test sample from the fuel tank...

[Rawcpoppa]

Lol what my friend needs is a swift kick to the head. The money spent to remap would probably take a long while to be recouped in cheaper fuel.

I hadn't even considered the dealer taking a sample of his fuel to make a diagnosis. Initially I would say this dealer wouldn't go through the hassle but I realize alot of the procedures they do are simply done because VW insists that they do them...

On another note, not trying to stir up trouble but are there any known issues with the 118kw 1.4 tsi engine? I'll be receiving a mk6 Jetta in march and I would just like to know of what I should look out for as well as proper way to break in the engine.


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[brad]

Questions about this engine. It has a knock sensor which adjusts engine firing I believe when it senses knocking. A friend of mine used Ron 92 octane mixed with Ron 95 octane (even though the manual states 95 is required) for about a year. He now has a cracked piston.

Are the two related? He argues that the engine will sort out itself and run with less power to avoid knocking. I'm thinking that the engine isn't a magician and knock still occurs but just reduced leading to his cracked piston. Engine is basically one year old.

The knock sensor needs to detect a knock before it sends a signal to the ECU. The ECU will (probably) richen the mixture, wind the timing back & reduce boost pressure. After that it will try & put all these parameters back to the datum until it gets a knock signal again. Therefore your mate was driving along with the engine detonating most of the time (you can't hear it).

Minimum fuel requirement really is a minimum.

He must have been going through fuel like a crazy mofo because when my dealer gave me a free tank of fuel they put in 92ron & fuel consumption increased about 2L/100km & torque was noticeably reduced.

92ron is false economy from every aspect.

[Rockman]

Plenty of issues with TSI118 and DSG gearbox. If you do a search you will read all about the VW Golf lemons and lack of customer satisfaction that exists in the market.


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[Ryan_R]

So much for this being the *appreciation* thread

[Rawcpoppa]

Most of the issues I've read pertained to golfs from 2009 wrt 118tsi engines. Haven't really found issues from 2011 onwards so that bodes well.


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[Syd118TSI]

So much for this being the *appreciation* thread

Depreciation thread (on resale for anyone reading this thread)

For those who have had engine problems were there any signs prior to the failures?

[Roddy]

Rockman...from IORR?

[Rockman]

Klosters try hard, but are flat out fixing up all the warranty issues. If the VW cars were not failing with motor/gearbox/clutch issues on new cars, they would be able to do service jobs sooner. When our alternator failed, they said it would take 7-10 days to get one in. They when it arrived they said "oh, you need to book it in now, and there is a 10 day wait". I asked why they did not book it in when they ordered the alternator. They said "oh, we didn't think of that".
Then when I rang up about the car not responding to the accelerator, they said "we can look at it in 2 weeks, so just keep driving it until it fails, they ring roadside assistance".


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[Rockman]

Rockman...from IORR?

Not sure what you mean, so the answer is probably not!


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[Roddy]

A user on IORR (It's Only Rock n Roll- a rolling stones web forum based out of Europe) has Rockman as username, from NSW I believe. Sorry for cryptic and nonsense post mate!

Rgds
Rod

[RosscoMK3]

So.
Is my 118TSI MY10 going to blow up? It's an amazing little car and I hope to keep it for several years.

There's a "Rockman" on RTAW also. Not you me thinks.

I love my car which I paid for outright. No buyers remorse so far.
If it blows up I'll be well upset.

The 118TSI is a cracker. Very drivable.
With the sports pack it handles 90 degree turns at 50kmh and the Cahill Express way at 70kmh while changing lanes. The bit going onto the bridge that is.
For a cheaper car it's very refined and will suit most.

[Ryan_R]

Even better with a Stage 1 ECU software remap

[RosscoMK3]

As soon as the warranty runs out. I'm there.

[Brendan_A]

Even better with a Stage 1 ECU software remap

+1 to that! Even better with S3 intercooler and exhaust!!