Golf GTI Mark VI Specifications and Prices

[jatkins]

Look at the end of the day this thread is used for people to mention what they have been quoted or what they bought for

and yeah you're right thats exactly what its for not for crap like this

HAHAHA yeah Im sure you will get a reduction - The dealer is licking ur balls.....

And you reckon $3200 is a good discount?? Mate ur dropping $50K on a hatchback and ur happy with $3200??? **** me people like this make it ***** hard for people like me to get a car at a decent price

[lawsy82]

So you didn't really get $4205 off the retail price as a trade was involved.

The prices that others have quoted are pure discount with no trade, your figure is useless as a comparison due to the trade in being of unknown value to the dealer. It's entirely possible they're picking up $32,000 for your car wholesale so your real discount is in fact $2205 or even $34,000 for it which drops your discount to a measly $205!

Doesn't look so crash hot now does it and nowhere near the 13-14% you were demanding!

My price is with no trade... The price was negotiated and signed as a seperate transaction to the sale of my vehicle.

I still have my MK5 but was told by the dealer they would give me $30K - cheque on the spot....

My discount of 13% is still probable - as when the 5% reduction is passed on in January this reduce my car by a further $1,800

[lawsy82]

lawsy, when i grow up i wanna be just like you

You cant be like me - I dominate too much

[Gav23]

My discount of 13% is still probable - as when the 5% reduction is passed on in January this reduce my car by a further $1,800

So your dealer confirmed VAG will be passing on the 5% reduction?

[lawsy82]

So your dealer confirmed VAG will be passing on the 5% reduction?

I was told by the sales manager that VW would be passing on the legislation - and when this happens the price of my vehicle will be reduced accordingly. I have added this clause in my contract, that in the event from Jan 1 if the reduction in levy is not passed on in full - I will be pulling out of the deal. think the reduction equates to around $1,600ish.

[Corey_R]

I was not insulting, the first thing i said was "congrats". I was asking a fair question you stu.......

with these specs
5DR CANDY WHITE GTI 40490
MDI 270
MANUAL 0
MATS 90

$44500

i calculated it to be 40490 +270 + 0 + 90 = 40850
plus 1020ish (SD) 2995 (deliv) 615ish (Rego) = 45480ish. So yes a small discount, and no i was not insulting, as I said, congrats, and euge answered my post stating he got $1200 off. Whats it to you. Its a forum of free speech. All this info will assist me with my purchase so I thank euge for his input and ask coreying to back off. lawsy nor i have said nothing wrong.

It's not that you were insulting, and it's nothing to do with free speech. It's the fact that you don't understand how car prices are calculated. And there have been a few people coming in here recently and chastising people over the prices they've paid without understanding how car prices are even set at point of sale - which is what you seemed to be doing by saying that it was the RRP when it wasn't. I apologise if you weren't intending to convey that though.

As for your calculations, your car and option prices are correct, except mats are included in the GTI (although, he may have got different ones, so we'll use your figure of 40850). Your stamp duty is out though....

You first add the dealer delivery, of $2995. and the LCT if applicable to the RRP price (in this case not). Stamp duty is then calculated on all that. So it's $1315.35, not 1020ish. In addition to the rego you also have CTP, but at least in NSW rego on this car is only $278 and CTP for a male around 40 in an average suburb of Sydney would be $428 (well this is what VW/Audi are using for guidance anyway). Most people will also opt for the premium plates instead of the old fat yellow/black ones. So the VW 'on the roads guidance price for NSW' comes out to be ~$45,936. The exact figure will obviously vary for location and driver sex and age.

[Dubya]

really? you need rear slip for power OFF oversteer to tighten the line and fight understeer....adding more rear grip reduces this ability, which means more understeer. The level of front grip is NOT this issue, its the change in the balance of grip levels from front to rear. Clearly, you dont have much experience beyond getting groceries so im not going to bother explaining it you further.

LOL.

You may be right about me not having that much experience. Or maybe not.

But why would you be more inclined to explain this concept to someone if they had more experience (and not be bothered to explain it to someone you think has so little)?

Wouldn't experienced drivers feel like you were telling them how to suck eggs while inexperienced drivers would miss out on your pearls of wisdom?

It seems you have mistaken experience for aptitude or intelligence.

But I was talking about typical road, not dirt or track, driving and, if you are too, I'd hate to be anywhere near you when you use lift-off oversteer to drift your car on a public road.

I don't know what you drive, but in most conditions the Mark V GTI corners like it is on rails and with very neutral handling, especially for a FWD.

So in normal circumstances (whether that be driving to the shops or enthusiastic, but safe, driving on country roads) in which front and rear grip is maintained, more rear grip will not result in more understeer.

So fitting wider wheels to the rear of a GTI should not be detrimental in most circumstances.

But if you mean "more understeer" not in practical terms but in absolute terms (ie under more extreme driving conditions or on a track with an expert such as yourself behind the wheel), then perhaps you could qualify your comments accordingly.

Or do you actually power-off when cornering (your Golf?) on sealed public roads and induce oversteer?

[Dubya]

My price is with no trade... The price was negotiated and signed as a seperate transaction to the sale of my vehicle.

I still have my MK5 but was told by the dealer they would give me $30K - cheque on the spot....

My discount of 13% is still probable - as when the 5% reduction is passed on in January this reduce my car by a further $1,800

My local dealer (NSW) has told me today that VGA will not be changing GTI pricing in response to the PMV tariff being cut from 10% to 5%.

The tariff reduction should equate to a 4.55% (not 5%) reduction in RRP (before ORC), as (110-105)/110 = 4.55%).

But if my dealer is correct, VGA is going to trouser the saving . . . at least for the time being.

[BigMan]

My local dealer told me they will just increase the price when the 5% tariff comes into effect in January. I dont know if i should hold off or not!! 5% is exactly what i need to convince the finance minister

[jatkins]

5% is exactly what i need to convince the finance minister

by finance minister you mean the missus don't you

[Maverick]

My local dealer (NSW) has told me today that VGA will not be changing GTI pricing in response to the PMV tariff being cut from 10% to 5%.

The tariff reduction should equate to a 4.55% (not 5%) reduction in RRP (before ORC), as (110-105)/110 = 4.55%).

But if my dealer is correct, VGA is going to trouser the saving . . . at least for the time being.

Actually it should equate to 3% at retail level. It's based on the cost of the car from the factory.

[Corey_R]

Actually it should equate to 3% at retail level. It's based on the cost of the car from the factory.

What he said.

It wouldn't surprise me if VW pocketed the difference. Considering the rise in inflation and the increase in spec and the fact that VW have kept the car the same as the previous one.
But it'd be nice if they did give us a small price drop!

[Dubya]

Actually it should equate to 3% at retail level. It's based on the cost of the car from the factory.

Bollocks. And no figures to justify either, as usual. Just pure unsubstantiated supposition.

If the imported cost falls 4.55% (due to a 5% fall in duty) then all things being equal (ie importer and dealer margins being unchanged) the RRP should fall the same percentage (ORC excluded of course). If it doesn't, someone in the supply chain is making extra margin.

Just like if the factory cost fell 50% the retail price should fall by the same percentage.

Only in this case the drop is 4.55%, if you do the maths (which Maverick seems to have overlooked in my previous post).

Or is Maverick happy to only receive the dollar reduction in duty rather than the percentage to which consumers are rightly entitled (in which case 4.55% of the dutiable amount might only be 3% of the RRP) but what kind of anti-consumer sentiment is that?

[Swallowtail]

I'm getting a MkVI GTI to play with this weekend - Saturday to Monday... quite looking forward to it! No idea what spec it is or anything yet, will find out when I pick it up Saturday afternoon.

I'll take pics...

[Corey_R]

If the imported cost falls 4.55% (due to a 5% fall in duty) then all things being equal (ie importer and dealer margins being unchanged) the RRP should fall the same percentage (ORC excluded of course). If it doesn't, someone in the supply chain is making extra margin.

Just like if the factory cost fell 50% the retail price should fall by the same percentage.

Um no.... I'm sorry, your argument is completely flawed because you're forgetting all the costs of which come after a car is 'finished at the factory' and the costs of just 'doing business' .

The tax is on the cost of the car from THE FACTORY (in this case Germany). The import tax is not calculated on expenses like:
Shipping from Germany to Australia
Australian customs/compliance/other import levies and duties
Australian taxes (GST, LCT, Stamp Duties)
VW Dealer wages
VW Dealer realestate/running costs
Advertising, Administration etc etc.

ALL of these things, and more, go on top of the factory price of a car to give you the retail price of the car. So reducing the import tax on the factory price of a car by 5% is not going to reduce the retail price of the car by 5% !!

For example, here is the article one Mazda's price drops:
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...25764C0080D2D0

As you will note, Mazda dropped the RETAIL price by 3% based on the reduction of import duties by 5%

There are plenty of other articles from different Automotive news sites already too. Please do your research first, especially before directly critising another site member.