The MK6 Fuel Consumption (Most / Least per Tank) Thread

[breezerboy]

I have read conflicting info regarding the fuel consumption of the 118TSI. The brochure and website say the 6 spd man gets (combined) 6.5 L/100km and the 7 spd DSG gets (combined) 6.2 L/100km. However, many reviews I have read have it the other way around. So, which is correct? I know most auto transmissions burn more, but is the DSG more economic?

Not too fussed either way and will be buying a DSG 118TSI whatever the answer is, just curious. Certainly better economy than my current manual Mk5 2.0 FSI, which gets about 7.8 - 8.0 L/100km.

[saveferris]

I have read conflicting info regarding the fuel consumption of the 118TSI. The brochure and website say the 6 spd man gets (combined) 6.5 L/100km and the 7 spd DSG gets (combined) 6.2 L/100km. However, many reviews I have read have it the other way around. So, which is correct? I know most auto transmissions burn more, but is the DSG more economic?

Not too fussed either way and will be buying a DSG 118TSI whatever the answer is, just curious. Certainly better economy than my current manual Mk5 2.0 FSI, which gets about 7.8 - 8.0 L/100km.

That's interesting.

My brochure says the opposite to yours.

118 TSI manual says 6.2 L/100km combined.

118 TSI DSG says 6.5 L/100km combined.


I just checked the VW Australia site, in its PDF brochure its the exact same as my brochure, where as in the seperate specification pdf download is says the opposite.

http://www.volkswagen.com.au/vwcms/master_public/virtualmaster/en_au/New_Cars/golf/Pricing_and_Specifications/Information_Downloads.html

[breezerboy]

I stand corrected, the brochure is as you say, but the 10 page spec sheet from the website is the other way around and no doubt incorrect.

[JasonP]

Over the first 3 tanks in my 118TSI DSG, it's averaged 7.5 l/100km, using Shell V-Power.
Mixture of Highway & City driving, but mainly city. (Brisbane).

Real world figures.

Engine is starting to loosen up nicely.

[glennbot]

The reason for the confusion is because of the way they test the fuel consumption in UK/German compared to Australia.

For some reason the Australian test uses more petrol with the DSG.

IMO the DSG will have better Fuel figures.


Read this link:

http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1763

Cheers.
GlennBot

[Stealthy]

Usually manuals always have better fuel economy figures, don't they?

[coastie]

Km/L L/100km
14.08 7.16

13.44 7.44
11.13 8.98
13.65 7.33
12.65 7.91
15.43 6.48
13.89 7.20
14.85 6.73
14.37 6.96
14.35 6.97
14.47 6.91
13.83 7.23
15.15 6.60
15.86 6.31

This is the first 6000 km figures from my 118TSI DSG top number in each column is the average of the listed numbers below. There is a trend to lower numbers however I still tend to hit it a bit harder in the stop start but the highway makes up for the heavy foot.

[Paul_OH]

Usually manuals always have better fuel economy figures, don't they?

Usually yes, when compared to the standard style of torque converter automatic. The DSG doesn't waste power like a standard auto due to it's auto clutches and you'll find that the DSG will quickly shift to a higher gear than if you're driving a manual. The Mk5 GT model is qtd as 7.7/100km for both the manual and auto - which is very realistic for 'normal' driving however on a regular drive to work I can easily get it down to 6.2/100km (50/50 Hwy & Residential) without really trying. My wife's best effort so far is 5.4/100 on a 30km 50/50 Hwy/Residential route.

To the TSI owners above, the engine really loosened up around 10,000km and economy just kept on improving. Early on in the peace the consumption was very ordinary but that was most likely due to my heavy boot 'experiencing' the new toy!

cheers,

Paul

[guliver_twist]

Love the TSI.. I have a manual.. and once hitting about 6500Ks I really noticed the engine loosen up and the fuel consumption improve.. (Note I also did an oil and filter change)...
With the single trip I easily get figures of around 5.8 to 6.2L for short trips and seem to be avg around 6.5L with a mix of highway and urban... Probably a bit more highway...I also tend to shift up somewhat early i.e. (5th at about 65km/h) and (6th at about 90-95km/h)

I also drove a mk5 diesel recently and drove it in a similar way to my TSI and it averaged 5.8L /100.. The TSI was about 6.2L /100
All and all I am damn impressed with this car...

The only thing I am a bit worried about is the fact that the Turbo only kicks in around 3500rpm and I rarely shift that high (mainly around 2-2.5k) it just doesn't need it...It has me wondering if it is bad that the turbo gets so little use..

Cheers ppl

p.s. I am going of the MFD so I am not sure if it over or under estimates and I have the sports pack with the Michellins (which may also make some difference)..

[cktsi]

The only thing I am a bit worried about is the fact that the Turbo only kicks in around 3500rpm and I rarely shift that high (mainly around 2-2.5k) it just doesn't need it...It has me wondering if it is bad that the turbo gets so little use..

Do what I do... give the turbo some exercise from time to time Even if you do it just once a trip, you won't kill your fuel consumption figure.

[Umai Naa!!]

The figures quoted whether they be in a brochure, or on the yellow label on the windscreen, are not real-world figures. They are for comparison only.

But, as you're comparing the difference between the manual and the DSG, I feel, given the marginal difference between them, it would really come down to which one you'd prefer to drive.

[mtaoz3]

VW has now (Quietly) fixed the figures

The original VW 118 Man/DSG were incorrect, both on the web site and in the brochures. The CO2 readings were stupid, with the DSG using more fuel but making less CO2. Not only was this illogical, but it was also in contradiction of the fuel figures in the UK where the DSG was always slightly better than the Manual. Even though the Oz figures are different, the relativity should have remained.
What happened was that the CO2 figures were in fact correct, but they had swapped over (by mistake) the fuel figures. I rang them several times about it and whilst I won't claim that they listened to me, they must have realised the error eventually. The correct results are now on their site, showing the DSG using less fuel and producing less CO2.
I wonder what the legal situation is where somebody decided on the Manual solely based on the incorrect figures? From what I see in the local dealer, there are still some cars with the incorrect stickers, whilst all the latest deliveries have the amended ones...
Cheers

[breezerboy]

I picked up my 118TSI with DSG from the dealer on Friday and I am in love (with the car, not the dealer, but he was nice if you like that sort of thing!). Anyway, on my first trip to work via freeway and a bit of city driving over 23km I got avg consumption down to as low as 4.8l/100km, with an overall avg of 5.1l/100km. Not bad. I emailed the dealer to ask where the engine was, because I thought they forgot to give me one... bloody quiet!

[golfmk6]

wow you guys are getting some great km's here.. I have the new TDI Golf with 8023km on the clock and I have to say I'm not getting the best km's out of the car. my average is 6.1 l/100km for a DSG and that's not driving it hard.

On the highway I get about 5.2 l/100km with no cruise control and 5.6 l/100km with cruise control.. I have spoken to VW about the usage and they said this is in the normal range so no need to worry

So it seems the Petrol is a lot better than the Diesel.. well have to wait for the lease to run out before I can swap..

at least Diesel is cheaper than ULP at the moment..

[brad]

wow you guys are getting some great km's here.. I have the new TDI Golf with 8023km on the clock

So it seems the Petrol is a lot better than the Diesel.. well have to wait for the lease to run out before I can swap..

I don't think your diesel is run in yet.

Expect your consumption to keep reducing until about the 25,000km mark.