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  • #16
    Originally posted by wvg View Post
    In order to avoid, drive with two legs like manual then quickly press acc. or use engin break. And also the rolling can be last only 50cm or similar.
    What the???


    thats pretty bad advice IMO. they want you to use your left foot on the brake and treat it like it is a manual??? that is asking for trouble espescially with the effectiveness of the brakes on these things.

    I treat mine like a manual on hills, though i dont use my left foot on brake, but instead i use handbrake like with a manual hill start until the DSG bites, then let off the brake (with my right foot) and gently apply the throttle.

    I have found after over a year that i have not had any problems with this method...
    currrently... MY10 GTI | DSG | Candy White | Sunroof | 18's | BT | MDI
    previously... MY08 GT TDI | DSG | Reflex Silver | Sunroof

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    • #17
      Originally posted by steve_tdi View Post
      What the???


      thats pretty bad advice IMO. they want you to use your left foot on the brake and treat it like it is a manual??? that is asking for trouble espescially with the effectiveness of the brakes on these things.

      I treat mine like a manual on hills, though i dont use my left foot on brake, but instead i use handbrake like with a manual hill start until the DSG bites, then let off the brake (with my right foot) and gently apply the throttle.

      I have found after over a year that i have not had any problems with this method...
      I didn't say anything about the driving method and I agree that's not the way I would do it either if I owned an auto, but as I don't drive auto's I can't comment on what is or isn't acceptable Much the same as it pi$$es me off when people sit and ride the clutch in a manual when stopped in traffic instead of using the brake pedal or pulling on the hand brake
      Russ

      2005 Subaru Outback 3.0 R Premium

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      • #18
        Bah!

        Left foot braking with the DSG instead of using the handbrake is quite OK.

        All hill start assist does is hold the brakes for you using the ABS/ESP system.

        Yes the brake pedal is sensitive but you get used to it.

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        • #19
          Just get used to it......

          Having owned 2 DSGs now - both diesels - this 'problem' exists only in the minds of those who cannot understand that their gearbox is indeed a 'manual' but with two little german men in there operating the clutch for you. Consequently, if you give them mixed messages, they will get confused. This means that if you are indecisive as to whether you want to go or not, the gearbox will hesitate. When you take off on the flat, on a hill or in reverse, just take your foot off the brake, gently press the accellerator to tell the gearbox to take up the clutch, then proceed as if you had just put a manual in gear and let the clutch off....... you can 'ride' the clutch very easily without needing 'hill hold' by just gently modulating your use of the accellerator....

          Incidentally, if it is a diesel, you do not even need to use the accelerator as the torque is so strong that the car will roll up a quite steep hill at idle - so just trust that it will roll only a few inches then get the message you are moving off and will engage the clutch and you can drive away. No magic, no need for braking - unless you want to drag someone off at the lights - the delight of the diesel combo with DSG - 0-60km/h in under 3 seconds!!
          Brisbane
          Eos Individual 2.0TDi Wheat Beige DSG BiXenon
          Fiat Punto Sport 1.9TDi Red and Zippy

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wvg View Post
            I need you guys advise.

            I've got new golf 6 comfortline 3 weeks ago and very very happy with it.
            However, there is a problem which I can't reproduce it again but it happens odd times so far 6-7 times. I am a software developer, sometime there is a bug but can't reproduce with same step. This is one of these kinds.

            OK, here is the problem. When I change the gear to reverse or drive from revese position, and off the break pedal to accelate but car moved opposite direction(about 1-3 secs, if reverse position then goes forward, if drive position it goes backward). Initially, I thought it's because I was on the hill or sliding road but sometimes it happens on the flat road. Recently this morning when I wait to join the main road(drive postion and break), off the break petal then it goes backword.

            I'm a dumb in mechnical things so please give some advise before I contact to my delear.
            I got a similar situation on mine as well (7 spd DSG)

            When select "R" from "P", car goes fwd (twice)
            When select "D: from "P", car does not move.(once)
            I had my dealer lok at it and they could not find a fault recorded and also test drive did could not replicate. Their advice was to allow the DSG a few seconds to respond to selection before driving.

            Not the answer I expected but will continue to monitor
            Tig 162 R-Line; Audi TT

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            • #21
              I've had my Golf Mark 6 118 tsi DSG for a month now. I have not experienced this problem.

              It sounds like a problem with the DSG gearbox itself than the hill start assist.
              Skoda Octavia Mk3
              (sold) Golf Mark 6 Comfortline 118
              (sold) Golf Mark5 Comfortline Manual 2.0 FSI

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              • #22
                I have a new series 6 TDi DSG. In cairns (FNQ) there are 2 such vehicles (mine and a demo at the dealer) that do this - reverse out of garage in morning (i.e cool - doesn't get cold here) back on to a backward slope on driveway. Stop, select D (drive) and car stalls! I have suggeted to dealer (and they agree) that there maybe a problem with hill-assist. It feels like the car is trying to pull away with the handbrake still on. The dealer is talking to VW in Germany. I reckon this may all be related.

                G

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                • #23
                  not sure if the golfs are the same... but my jetta you cant left foot brake and accelerate at the same time.
                  when you apply the brake it will not respond to the accelerator pedal. (i assume because you are confusing the gearbox software as it doesn't know if you are going or stopping.)
                  to avoid the slight roll back on a really steep hill i use the method that stevetdi uses with the handbrake... you can feel the car wanting to go forward then release the handbrake and off you go.
                  on slight inclines it will only roll back a small amount. (freaked me out too when i first drove mine up a hill in the city)
                  1974 1300 Beetle, 1997 Golf GL, 2003 New Beetle Cabrio, 2014 Audi A4 quattro

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                  • #24
                    remember people... the 7 speed DSG (petrol TSI engines) is different to the 6 speed DSG used in the diesel cars.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by gogil1 View Post
                      I have a new series 6 TDi DSG. In cairns (FNQ) there are 2 such vehicles (mine and a demo at the dealer) that do this - reverse out of garage in morning (i.e cool - doesn't get cold here) back on to a backward slope on driveway. Stop, select D (drive) and car stalls! I have suggeted to dealer (and they agree) that there maybe a problem with hill-assist. It feels like the car is trying to pull away with the handbrake still on. The dealer is talking to VW in Germany. I reckon this may all be related.

                      G
                      Do you have your foot firmly on the brake when going from R to D or are you using the handbrake?
                      website: www.my-gti.com

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pologti18t View Post
                        remember people... the 7 speed DSG (petrol TSI engines) is different to the 6 speed DSG used in the diesel cars.
                        How? They both operate the same way!
                        website: www.my-gti.com

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Maverick View Post
                          How? They both operate the same way!
                          1.4 TSi gets a 7 speed unit with dry clutches
                          TDI and GTI get a 6 speed unit with wet clutches

                          Same same but different.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by pologti18t View Post
                            1.4 TSi gets a 7 speed unit with dry clutches
                            TDI and GTI get a 6 speed unit with wet clutches

                            Same same but different.
                            They still operate the same way, as far as the driver is concerned there is no difference.
                            website: www.my-gti.com

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                            • #29
                              Have your vehicle looked at by a dealer. Hill start assist holds for 1.5 seconds, and it doesnt sound like that.
                              <VW Passat R36 Sedan>

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