Fitting genuine xenons to a non-xenon car

[Tim]

Most genuine Hella lights are switchable. Flick of a switch and the go from LHD to RHD.

Aftermarket Hellas yes. OEM I wouldnt be so sure of

[XXX-1.8T]

Mischa - there are a lot of clowns on these forums that dont read

I am glad you are going the OEM route as thats what i would like to do with my Jetta.

In asking your question when i had my Audi A3 i wanted to install xenons and bought a set of OEM xenon lights from Germany.

Everything was plug and play except for 2 things:

You must up rate the headlight fuse as xenon ballasts require more voltage to fire up

You must flip the reflector as in Germany the cars are LHD and you will blind on coming traffic so i made mine RHD.

As for washing and self levelling they are not part of the law so ignore the BS. I had my oem xenons installed and had no problems with police or blinding on coming drivers.

Im interested in buying a set of OEM xenon lights for my Jetta as well so we can buy together and split the costs.

if you have any further questions PM me

[Mischa]

Mischa - there are a lot of clowns on these forums that dont read

I am glad you are going the OEM route as thats what i would like to do with my Jetta.

In asking your question when i had my Audi A3 i wanted to install xenons and bought a set of OEM xenon lights from Germany.

Everything was plug and play except for 2 things:

You must up rate the headlight fuse as xenon ballasts require more voltage to fire up

You must flip the reflector as in Germany the cars are LHD and you will blind on coming traffic so i made mine RHD.

As for washing and self levelling they are not part of the law so ignore the BS. I had my oem xenons installed and had no problems with police or blinding on coming drivers.

Im interested in buying a set of OEM xenon lights for my Jetta as well so we can buy together and split the costs.

if you have any further questions PM me

cool thanks for the reply you've got a pm

[mrx]

As for washing and self levelling they are not part of the law so ignore the BS. I had my oem xenons installed and had no problems with police or blinding on coming drivers.

Are you obsolutely certain about this? Don't take it the wrong way, I'm not arguing, I had just fallen victim to the BS if this is the case.

My Skoda has projector lamps with halogens & even has a mounting point for the ballasts inside the back of the lamps. I would like to upgrade them to Xenon, but had been holding back due to the washer / levelling issue.

[jb747]

5.3. For vehicles fitted with filament headlamps, the requirements of the
following paragraphs in Appendix A are not applicable:
6.2.6.1 (vertical orientation for dipped beam);
6.2.6.2 (Headlamp levelling) and
6.2.6.3 (Measuring procedure).

This is the normal lighting system in most cars...


6.2.6.2. Headlamp levelling device
6.2.6.2.1. In the case where a headlamp levelling device is necessary to satisfy the requirements of paragraphs 6.2.6.1.1. and 6.2.6.1.2., the device shall be automatic.

And this is what would seem to apply to gas discharge lighting systems. It's all legalese, but it doesn't look like the requirement is BS to me.

[XXX-1.8T]

5.3. For vehicles fitted with filament headlamps, the requirements of the
following paragraphs in Appendix A are not applicable:
6.2.6.1 (vertical orientation for dipped beam);
6.2.6.2 (Headlamp levelling) and
6.2.6.3 (Measuring procedure).

This is the normal lighting system in most cars...


6.2.6.2. Headlamp levelling device
6.2.6.2.1. In the case where a headlamp levelling device is necessary to satisfy the requirements of paragraphs 6.2.6.1.1. and 6.2.6.1.2., the device shall be automatic.

And this is what would seem to apply to gas discharge lighting systems. It's all legalese, but it doesn't look like the requirement is BS to me.

where are they from?

and it doesnt state that a gas discharge light must have auto levelling?

[jb747]

where are they from?

Dotars.

and it doesnt state that a gas discharge light must have auto leveling?

No, it says that if it is anything other than a normal filament light, then it must have auto leveling. Which translates as bi-xenons require auto leveling.

[Mischa]

Dotars.

No, it says that if it is anything other than a normal filament light, then it must have auto leveling. Which translates as bi-xenons require auto leveling.

could you link to the page you found that so we can see what 6.2.6.1.1 and 6.2.6.1.2 are?

[jb747]

I did a google search, looking for the ADRs. The page I found it on was titled 'Australian Design Rule 13/00 Installation of Lighting and Light Signalling Devices on other than L-Group Vehicles'.

I didn't keep the reference, but it was directly from the government site. I'm sure you'll find it....

[XXX-1.8T]

Dotars.

No, it says that if it is anything other than a normal filament light, then it must have auto leveling. Which translates as bi-xenons require auto leveling.

it still doesnt make sense.

OEM xenons have 6.2.6.1 (vertical orientation for dipped beam); its manually adjusted it does not state that it must be self levelling.

Please post a link or reference or some sort of proof.

[jb747]

Please post a link or reference or some sort of proof.

Look, it's no skin off my nose one way or the other. But, I didn't keep the reference. I simply went looking for the ADRs. Now I'm an over 50 old fart, so if I can find the ADRs with a couple of minutes of searching, I'd presume that you can too.

[XXX-1.8T]

Look, it's no skin off my nose one way or the other. But, I didn't keep the reference. I simply went looking for the ADRs. Now I'm an over 50 old fart, so if I can find the ADRs with a couple of minutes of searching, I'd presume that you can too.

mate i just googled the crap you quoted and they arent even laws that have passed they were to be proposed.

Xenon lights are referred to as gas discharge lights.



If you have something to say please back it up with proof and cut the BS and heresay

[VW Convert]

Think this may be what you are looking for, happy reading!

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legi...comp2FINAL.pdf

Cheers

George

[Mischa]

we're all friends no need to to start bickering

6.2.6.1. Vertical orientation
6.2.6.1.1. The initial downward inclination of the cut-off of the dipped-beam to be
set in the unladen vehicle state with one person in the driver's seat shall
be specified within an accuracy of 0.1 per cent by the manufacturer and
indicated in a clearly legible and indelible manner on each vehicle close
to either headlamp or the manufacturer's plate by the symbol shown in
Annex 7.
The value of this indicated downward inclination shall be defined in
accordance with paragraph 6.2.6.1.2.

6.2.6.1.2. Depending on the mounting height in metres (h) of the lower edge of
the apparent surface in the direction of the reference axis of the
dipped-beam headlamp, measured on the unladen vehicles, the vertical
inclination of the cut-off of the dipped- beam shall, under all the static
conditions of Annex 5, remain between the following limits and the
initial aiming shall have the following values:
bla bla bla...

i guess that means you're right kosta although im no good at reading legal jargon

[XXX-1.8T]

Think this may be what you are looking for, happy reading!

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legi...comp2FINAL.pdf

Cheers

George

thank you

there is no mention of self levelling being a legal requirement