GT 2.0Ltr & DPChip!!!!

[TDI Dude]

A lot of people freak about getting your car serviced with a tuned ECU or something similar...im telling you....VW servicing centres dont care I know people who have had all kinds of directly related warranty work done with no problems at all.

The Warranty from the DP chip does sound like a really good piece of mind, but how do they give you 5 Year Warranty when a standard VW warranty is 3 years? Or am i misunderstanding?

After working in dealership service departments for several years I never believe what a salesman says!! And I'd have to agree get confirmation from VW in writing, as usually ANY engine or ecu modifications will void that particular part of your warranty. I'd just wouldnt take a chance on it, and yes you can call me anal retentive! I'll use a dealership service department but I'd never trust a thing they say unless it comes from the Manager or in writing on their letterhead. There is a million and one ways to work around a warranty if you need to (99% of the tiime dealerships are pretty good) I just wouldn't go giving them that 1% foot hold.

And by the 5yr warranty they mean if at year 4 you snap a drive shaft or your ecu cooks itself they'll replace it, but of course proving it is another story!!!!! Though all in all from the discussions I have already had with Dpchip via email they seem to be the only ones that have responded promptly and provided any and all information that I have requested from them, to me it shows they are conscience and an indication that they would continue to provide a high level of support for their product. I will definately be getting myself one once my GT Sport arrives... And yes time will tell!!!!

[Logzy]

but who cares about a chip, it would be useless without an LSD, first and second gear are so short you have to shift twice before 80

One thing i hadnt thought of before now.
Is the DSG a LSD type setup.??

[gregozedobe]

Is the DSG a LSD type setup.??

DSG is a gearbox, not a differential (so it can't help with traction).

[Tim]

DSG is a gearbox, not a differential (so it can't help with traction).

DSG is actually a form of transaxle isnt it? Both a gearbox and a diff
And no its not an LSD as standard. There is an upgrade for it available though isnt there?

[GermanwithaVdub]

DSG is actually a form of transaxle isnt it? Both a gearbox and a diff
And no its not an LSD as standard. There is an upgrade for it available though isnt there?

imo opinion if you wanna start modding your car beyond suspension and chip you wouldnt buy a dsg in the first place

[Transporter]

DSG is actually a form of transaxle isnt it? Both a gearbox and a diff
And no its not an LSD as standard. There is an upgrade for it available though isnt there?

Why would you want LSD when every VW car has electronic diff lock?

[Logzy]

DSG is a gearbox, not a differential (so it can't help with traction).

Really, gee thanks for that info.
It is not just a gear box, it also contains the differential part of the drive train.
Where do you think the diff is in a FWD car.?????

[SoVeReIgN]

Why would you want LSD when every VW car has electronic diff lock?

Are you being sarcastic??

The 'Electronic Diff lock' is absolutely uselessly rubbish.

[Guy_H]

TDI Dude,

Go for a plug in module, they have their place in the market - but keep in mind that the ECU is a MED17 and PPD 1.2 ECU & can record & hold the fault codes indefinately (and also records all fault information like speed, gear, temperature, fuel pressure, boost, atmo pressure etc) when the fault code is thrown. Its pretty easy to see if it has had the fuel pressure raised.

The second & most obvious way of telling (especially on the new dpf motors) is fuel system leaks around all the positive side fuel fittings. We have seen a near new Touareg here that had fairly major "weeping" around the injector pipes, pressure sender & pump fittings. Needless to say VW denied warranty as it was clear that fuel pressure tampering was the cause. Thankfully there was no major effects on the mechanical systems.

Fair call that VW may never check it - but you never know, there may be a case when they do.

Also check the warranty agreement in writing and make sure exactly what it covers you for and exactly what dollar amount (and who carries out the assesment & repairs). Warranty is great for the modification industry!

[gregozedobe]

Really, gee thanks for that info.
It is not just a gear box, it also contains the differential part of the drive train.
Where do you think the diff is in a FWD car.?????

Hello Logzy,
If you want to get all picky and technical about semantics what I actually said was: "DSG is a gearbox, not a differential (so it can't help with traction)." I stand by that statement 100%. Yes, the gearbox and differential are contained in the one transaxle, but thay are two different components with two separate functions (one changes gears, the other passes drive to the two output shafts, allowing them to rotate at different speeds so you can turn without binding). You can specify whether you want a DSG gearbox, or a order a manual gearbox, whichever is your preference.

I got the impression that you thought that ticking the DSG option might give you an LSD (that you don't get with the manual gearbox). It doesn't. I thought the relevant part of the discussion was LSD/Not LSD so I was trying to keep things simple, my bad

[gregozedobe]

The 'Electronic Diff lock' is absolutely uselessly rubbish.

I've been told it can help at very slow speeds on slippery surfaces (eg wet grass), but is quite rough and makes very scary noises in operation

So far it hasn't happened to me so I haven't had the joy

[Logzy]

OK. Maybe my brief question was misleading and after reviewing it i can see how one could interpret that i may have thought DSG meant LSD in some way.
Someone with limited mechanical knowledge could think this i guess.

Anyhow to answer my own question i have found that there are LSD's available for the DSG box however what a nightmare of a job to fit it, split the box, drill out bolt holes, etc. Really not worth considering now IMO.

[Logzy]

I was unaware of the electronic diff lock.

Being electronic I wonder if there could be a way of engaging it manually with a switch or something for straight line take off's.
Obviously this would be risky and strictly used for straight line take off only then immediatly disengaged once you get going.

EDIT: Just found this:
Note: The electronic differential lock (EDL) employed by VAG is not - as the name suggests - a differential lock at all. Sensors monitor wheel speeds, and if one is rotating substantially faster than the other (i.e. slipping) the EDL system momentarily brakes it. This effectively transfers all the power to the other wheel

[gregozedobe]

I was unaware of the electronic diff lock.

Being electronic I wonder if there could be a way of engaging it manually with a switch or something for straight line take off's.
Obviously this would be risky and strictly used for straight line take off only then immediatly disengaged once you get going.

When you understand how it actually works you will probably lose interest in this idea rather rapidly.

"Electronic diff lock" is the marketing name used by VW and is more than a bit misleading. It works by applying the brake on the spinning wheel (ie the one with less traction), which forces the bulk of the engines torque to go through the other wheel (which presumably has better traction because it isn't spinning). Assuming you want to use it for quicker acceleration then applying brakes is the last thing you would want to do

Not a bad reply for "Someone with limited mechanical knowledge" ?

[Logzy]

When you understand how it actually works you will probably lose interest in this idea rather rapidly.

Interest already lost. See the edit to my post.