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  • #16
    Are you still happy with these mate ?

    I had problems with our MK5 and the OEM LCA's (and bushes) at the 2 year mark so aftermarket replacements are interesting.
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    • #17
      Sounds like a good mod. I was meant to have the Superalloy arms put on my car on Thursday, however there was a part missing, so I have to wait until next week what do you guys think about installing a Whiteline anti-lift kit as well??

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      • #18
        Big Jase, why would you want whiteline anti-lift kit as well?

        The superpro alloy arm kit comes with its own anti-lift bushing. What part was missing BTW?
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        • #19
          Hey guys.
          I also have the supapro alloy arms, they are lighter however they are actually just the vw alloy control arms off the v6 engined passat. They have only been polished up and have had the part numbers removed, and polybushings installed.
          Value wise, compared to purchasing them brand new from vw, then yes it's a bargain, however if you can source them second hand from a wreckers for cheap and purchase the polly bushings and install them then this is a better option.
          The whiteline anti lift kit (WALK) is different to what is offered by supapro.
          The WALK has a different geometry compared to supapro it changes the caster, and has poly bushings. Supapro is just the standard bracket with poly bushings installed. It does not work the same as a WALK, all it does is make it stiffer.
          GTI MKV, 3 pedals >D, black, leather, K04 APR tune , APR RSC tbe, BSH CAI, Bilsteins sports shocks, H&R sports springs, wavetrack LSD, H&R sway bars, and painted that stupid looking matt black plastic bumbers and side skirts to match the paint of the car

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          • #20
            Here is a couple images comparing the supapro to the passat arms

            SUPAPRO


            PASSAT ARMS
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            GTI MKV, 3 pedals >D, black, leather, K04 APR tune , APR RSC tbe, BSH CAI, Bilsteins sports shocks, H&R sports springs, wavetrack LSD, H&R sway bars, and painted that stupid looking matt black plastic bumbers and side skirts to match the paint of the car

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            • #21
              To be honest, i was dissapointed about this when i found out what i had really purchased. Especially seeing it was done by an aussie company that seems to have worked no differently as a dodgy Chinese company doing a rip off.

              Performance wise, yes the steering is lighter, and this is what got me worried when i compared this to all the reports on the WALK. The WALK actually makes the steering heavier, supapro makes it lighter, i have also found when compined with bilstein sport shocks and h&r sport springs that the car doesnt seem to like bumps during cornering aswell, i am thinking that this is more due to the polybushings taking the shock and transfering this energy straight to the chasis instead of absorbing this in the bushings as in the case of the old rubber bushings (i have had the suspension set up for 2 years before installing the supapro alloy arms).

              Overall, not to happy with it for a number of reasons
              1) its a lie, all it is are passat r36 control arms that have been polished.
              2) it is not an anti lift kit
              3) the polybushings seem to have made the car upset on fast rough corners

              Dont recomend them
              I would say for people to go the tt kit.
              And save your $520
              GTI MKV, 3 pedals >D, black, leather, K04 APR tune , APR RSC tbe, BSH CAI, Bilsteins sports shocks, H&R sports springs, wavetrack LSD, H&R sway bars, and painted that stupid looking matt black plastic bumbers and side skirts to match the paint of the car

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              • #22
                Here is a link to a thread by someone who has done the TT/S3 conversion

                TT/S3 alloy arms & swivels Thread - VW GTI Forum / VW Rabbit Forum / VW R32 Forum / VW Golf Forum - Golfmkv.com
                GTI MKV, 3 pedals >D, black, leather, K04 APR tune , APR RSC tbe, BSH CAI, Bilsteins sports shocks, H&R sports springs, wavetrack LSD, H&R sway bars, and painted that stupid looking matt black plastic bumbers and side skirts to match the paint of the car

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Brendan_A View Post
                  Big Jase, why would you want whiteline anti-lift kit as well?

                  The superpro alloy arm kit comes with its own anti-lift bushing. What part was missing BTW?
                  Hi Brendan,

                  Sorry for the late reply. One part of the joint was missing when it arrived. So to compensate they gave me a free wheel-alignment.

                  I aksed about installing the Whiteline Anti-Lift Kit and the VW Centre said that I didn't need it with the arms put in. So I didn't. Love the arms though, no breaking traction with them installed. Traction control lights flash up, but car does not actually break traction.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by phillip1978 View Post
                    Overall, not to happy with it for a number of reasons
                    1) its a lie, all it is are passat r36 control arms that have been polished.
                    2) it is not an anti lift kit
                    3) the polybushings seem to have made the car upset on fast rough corners

                    Dont recomend them
                    I would say for people to go the tt kit.
                    And save your $520
                    Just a thought

                    Why would a company get (assumed) OEM new control arms and remove markings and resell them less than what they would of cost?
                    I think you meant these are "copies" or casts of the above mentioned control arms.
                    Is there any proof to back up what you are implying apart from pictures that look alike ?

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                    • #25
                      extending duceane

                      Originally posted by bennjamin View Post
                      Just a thought

                      Why would a company get (assumed) OEM new control arms and remove markings and resell them less than what they would of cost?
                      I think you meant these are "copies" or casts of the above mentioned control arms.
                      Is there any proof to back up what you are implying apart from pictures that look alike ?
                      I dont think Supapro would have got these new. Like you said no profit in it buying them new from VW.
                      Also why would they polish them, the part sits under the car no one ever sees it. Looking at it from a financial point why bother polishing it, its just an extra cost eating into profits. If i was running the business why would i spend money on making it look 'bling', and by polishing it its very easy to rub out the part numbers, again i have no proof of it but.....comeon its kinda dodgy isnt it.

                      Though I am a half empty kinda guy.
                      Last edited by phillip1978; 25-09-2012, 10:29 PM.
                      GTI MKV, 3 pedals >D, black, leather, K04 APR tune , APR RSC tbe, BSH CAI, Bilsteins sports shocks, H&R sports springs, wavetrack LSD, H&R sway bars, and painted that stupid looking matt black plastic bumbers and side skirts to match the paint of the car

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                      • #26
                        I have personally been involved in the development of these arms from day 1, so might be able to add a bit of insight?

                        The arms are imported, they are an OE casting & they come in the "bright" coated finish, they are not polished at all.

                        The bushes are cast / poured into the arms in Moorooka, Brisbane.

                        The design of the rear bushes is similar to other "made in Asia" Gold & Yellow "Anti Lift Kits", they add approximately 1.5 degrees of static castor.

                        Unlike the "Anti Lift Kits" listed above, we don't have bushing failure due to the high lateral forces splitting the rear bush. There were multiple design changes to overcome this, and all tested on our APR Australia cars on the track & street. An example of the testing is some versions of "Anti Lift Kits" wouldn't last 20 laps of QLD Raceway with braking forces of the National Circuit. They have also failed on VAG cars competing in Targa Tasmania.

                        There are now also adjustable ball joints that work specifically with these arms that allow us to achieve an extra 1.5 degrees of negative camber.

                        These ball joints are included in the Harding Performance version of the arms (RR $750).

                        Summary:

                        They are an OEM VW / Audi arm, they are not "polished"
                        They do have "Anti Lift" bushes in the rear
                        They do have harder bushes in them so you may experience different noise & vibration to stock arms
                        They have harder bushes in them, so you do get better feedback & response.

                        Like all suspension changes, a good wheel alignment is critical, you can throw all the suspension parts you like at a car, and be let down badly by the wheel alignment.
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                        • #27
                          Cant agree more Guy, thats the part that will let it all down.
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                          • #28
                            interesting thread lads.

                            I just got WALKS and now have heard about these control arms.
                            Can you use the WALK with this kit, as in cant i just purchase the control arms without getting the ALK from super pro?
                            also do the ball joints really make that much of a difference? as the cost difference is an added $450. pondering weather to return the WALKs and to get these control arms, and at that which to get... the control arms and the ALK or the control arms, ALK n the ball joiints?

                            kaz

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                            • #29
                              Go with either WALK or SuperPro
                              No need to mix & match parts into the SuperPro kit as it has more caster and adjustable camber
                              The SuperPro arms eliminated my axle tramp and added straight line stability
                              I had the camber maxed out to 1.45 deg, hard cornering turn in is improved, car feels very sure footed
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                              • #30
                                whats you opinion on the ball joints though? ? also do u think the steering is too light now?? or more feel?

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