APR Downpipe

[tofo17]

As previously posted, my Jetta TFSI has an APR tune and has done a 14.46 @ 96.67mph down the quarter... pretty impressive.

A few months back I got the Carbonio CAI. I didn't do another quarter mile run but in all honesty it seemed to make no difference (beyond looking damned cool!).

So I recently decided to go with the APR Downpipe on my Jetta TFSI (APR have 10% off at the moment so I saved a few dollars). Given the regular family duties of the Jetta I didn't want extra noise, so the full TBE wasn't an option (most reports are that the full TBE doesn't give much of a gain over the DP anyway). The extra power was immediately obvious, particularly in the top end, and the car seems to rev much faster. A very small increase in noise during normal driving (a bit more mechanical) and at WOT you can hear the turbo a lot more.

Last night I went back to Willowbank to see what she would do down the quarter. After struggling for traction on the first few runs and only doing 14.5s I then got a good run in :
14.214 @ 99.47mph

The run was done with over half a tank of fuel, no weight saving measures (the spare tire wasn't removed), normal tyre pressure (35psi) and even with the baby capsule in back i.e. in road trim. The slip reports 16 degrees but the Jetta was reporting 22 degrees.

APR Downpipe = $1079.10 (with 10% discount)
Install = $130
APR Re-map to match DP = free (as car already had an APR tune)
Big grin = priceless.

[srbsta]

great to hear man


woooot APR represent

[99gti]

Nice write up! Congrats on the new addition too.

[DUB 20V]

good to see some good numbers well done to you and apr for making a wide range of products, shame about some other brands

[anarchycamp]

Great to hear!! Good times too...not far off hitting 13s!! I reckon TBE might do it for a Jetta which would be awesome really.

Have heard/seen great things about the APR TBE but dont know too much about the Downpipe. I think ill have to go the Carbonio and TBE next year when the MkV is retired for heavy modification duties

[Jeffie]

Sorry to bring up an old thread... but this seemed the most appropriate. If you get the APR ECU and get other non APR mods, do they still remap the ECU for you for free?

Also do they dyno tune it or is it a generic map they put onto the cars with set mods and octane?

[kryten2001]

Sorry to bring up an old thread... but this seemed the most appropriate. If you get the APR ECU and get other non APR mods, do they still remap the ECU for you for free?

Also do they dyno tune it or is it a generic map they put onto the cars with set mods and octane?

yep, they sure do. Top service.

[gtimk5]

Sorry to bring up an old thread... but this seemed the most appropriate. If you get the APR ECU and get other non APR mods, do they still remap the ECU for you for free?

Also do they dyno tune it or is it a generic map they put onto the cars with set mods and octane?

You need to bring this up with your APR dealer.
It is bound to start some off otherwise...

You cant expect to get free retunes though each time you add something different unless the parts fitted are APR products. The APR tunes have been setup to suit their specific products.
Andrew

[kryten2001]

You need to bring this up with your APR dealer.
It is bound to start some off otherwise...

You cant expect to get free retunes though each time you add something different unless the parts fitted are APR products. The APR tunes have been setup to suit their specific products.
Andrew

Yeah I wouldn't expect (but I'm not sure) that they'd even be interested in retuning your car if you put on say, another third party exhaust. There's a lot of mucking around getting tunes just right.

Guy might be able to answer this one, but I'd doubt it. There's too many combinations out there, and the local installers definately wouldn't have the expertise to perform custom tunes.

Personally I'm just glad they do the R&D and provide maps for different setups. Not only that, but they do it for free once you've bought the tune.

Most places (at least in the V8 world) will do a custom tune, but each addition requires a completely different retune at pretty much the full price. That's because each car is tuned independantly of the hardware. No 2 exhausts the same etc etc. You don't get the same precision, nor controlled environment you get with the APR stuff. Plus tunes are usually done by the installers, not by a central body that can also provide exhausts, fuel pumps, IC's etc etc who can adjust the tune in a controlled environment before sending out in the world.

It's a great scene we have hey.. Don't sledge it until you've seen how others do it.. I consider a $2k tune quite the bargain.

[Guy_H]

Sorry to bring up an old thread... but this seemed the most appropriate. If you get the APR ECU and get other non APR mods, do they still remap the ECU for you for free?

Also do they dyno tune it or is it a generic map they put onto the cars with set mods and octane?

Jeffie, depends on what you mean.

If you purchase an additional APR product through the dealer network, then yes, your software is updated for free.

If you purchase non APR products and require a reflash - then your dealer can charge you for the update (hint - you are not buying anything & asking them to supply labour fro free).

Also please note that we can not warrant & guarantee any other products & if they will be compatible with the APR software. Recent cases of aftermarket fuel pumps & exhausts that did not function (and ended up costing the customers a lot more) - our dealer can not be responsible for that.

No individual dyno tuning required - there are no custom hardware, so it has all been calibrated for (each component & step). APR technicians just left Brisbane last week after a combined 1200 hours of calibration (just for an example)

[kryten2001]

Jeffie, depends on what you mean.

If you purchase an additional APR product through the dealer network, then yes, your software is updated for free.

If you purchase non APR products and require a reflash - then your dealer can charge you for the update (hint - you are not buying anything & asking them to supply labour fro free).

Also please note that we can not warrant & guarantee any other products & if they will be compatible with the APR software. Recent cases of aftermarket fuel pumps & exhausts that did not function (and ended up costing the customers a lot more) - our dealer can not be responsible for that.

No individual dyno tuning required - there are no custom hardware, so it has all been calibrated for (each component & step). APR technicians just left Brisbane last week after a combined 1200 hours of calibration (just for an example)

I know it's a touchy subject, but I gotta say this stuff is a massive reason why I personally love APR stuff. Sure it's exxy, but everything works so well when it all comes from the same shop. You'd swear it was all put in by VW. Except err, the noise that comes out the back. haha....

But lets be careful, or this might be yet another thread that goes off the rails. Whether it be APR or Oeteingerneragger, the idea of a controlled set of tunes for different hardware setups is just fantastic. Buy your parts as you go, and you'll know you've got a tune that is perfectly suited to you car, and can be installed in minutes.

The IC and fuel pump are getting close Guy, I just need to sell another body part.

[Jeffie]

Thanks for the replies, I didnt expect that it would be free with a non APR part I have just seen 'free updated tune' thrown around alot on forums re APR and I wasnt sure if exactly what it all meant.

I dont even have a GTI yet, just researching the correct update path when the time comes

[kryten2001]

Thanks for the replies, I didnt expect that it would be free with a non APR part I have just seen 'free updated tune' thrown around alot on forums re APR and I wasnt sure if exactly what it all meant.

I dont even have a GTI yet, just researching the correct update path when the time comes

Whatever the GTI costs you, double it.

Once the bug bites, you're screwed.

[Jeffie]

Oh yeah another thing... everything im reading online talks of 91, 93 and 100 octane maps... what about 95 & 98 for us?

[gtimk5]

Go the fuel pump kryton!! Lose that body part quick smart mate!!!
did mine last week., not the body bit, the pump!!
Makes a difference and with todays temperature down to 10 degrees my drive home will be great!!
Andrew