City driving with dsg

[brimway]

brimway please read my post again, i was talking about the gearbox, not the people who use it

Dumb people buy dumb things????

[brimway]

Notwithstanding my previous posts, i really miss "contolling the box"

[thezoneR32]

ok heres my 2 cents worth. I have driven quite a few dsg vw's. I rekon there are only two vw that the dsg is really suited to. The R32 and the R36. These cars have both got a lot and I mean a lot of low down torque followed by mid range punch and oh yes and top end power as well. This means that(and I know the dsg can be moody) it doesnt' matter what speed you are doing or what gear you are in, there is always a smooth effortless abundance of useable power. I have always favoured manuals in my 25 years of driving but nothing can touch this superb piece of engineering. And having said that the newer dsg in the R is quite good partly masking the turbo lag but really at the end of the day, the v6's and the dsg's are a match made in heaven. Why do you think the Bugatti Veyron has a DSG? Its only the fastest most powerful production car in the world.

[Diesel_vert]

No doubt the unit used by the Veyron truly is a "superb piece of engineering", but even though a double clutch gearbox is utterly suited to the philosophy of a car like the Veyron, it doesn't automatically make it the best solution for every car.

However, I agree that the immense power and torque of the Veyron's engine would mask the idiosyncrasies of whatever gearbox it's attached to.

Or just overwhelm the driver so much that he or she won't care how the gearbox operates.

[hua_qiu]

Not denying Veyron or DSG are marvelous engineering, but not every one has 1 million dollars spare.

The improvement I am talking about hardly cost anything per production unit. Just software re-design. I have APR stage I done on my car. The car has more than enough power to handle daily drive, but just the gear box often select the wrong gear. I happened to be a photographic enthusiast. Let me compare two of my hobby

Jetta cost me 43k; my D700 cost me 3k
Jetta has 6 gear; D700 has dozens and dozens of aperture and shutter speed combination
Jetta has a dumb gear box; D700 4096-segment sensor doing pattern recognition based on a database which is built from the data after analyzing thousands of successful photo
Jetta often chose the wrong gear, sometimes very wrong; I am yet to see wrong exposure one after thousands of pictures.

[VW Convert]

Not denying Veyron or DSG are marvelous engineering, but not every one has 1 million dollars spare.

The improvement I am talking about hardly cost anything per production unit. Just software re-design. I have APR stage I done on my car. The car has more than enough power to handle daily drive, but just the gear box often select the wrong gear. I happened to be a photographic enthusiast. Let me compare two of my hobby

Jetta cost me 43k; my D700 cost me 3k
Jetta has 6 gear; D700 has dozens and dozens of aperture and shutter speed combination
Jetta has a dumb gear box; D700 4096-segment sensor doing pattern recognition based on a database which is built from the data after analyzing thousands of successful photo
Jetta often chose the wrong gear, sometimes very wrong; I am yet to see wrong exposure one after thousands of pictures.

You have to admit though, you are going to look pretty silly driving your D700 on the road! Really this is not a very good analogy, comparing chalk and cheese.

Some people love DSG, some hate it, as I've posted previously I'm on my second DSG eqipped car, have driven 80,000 km in them and never found a problem. I've also spent a number of weeks recently driving a 125TSI and 103TDI Tiguan with auto boxes and can only say the DSG is light years ahead of a conventional auto.

[maca]

all of you people should drive manuals. DSG is the dumbest thing ever invented. I drove a '10 jetta TSi with a 7 speed (7 SPEED!!!) DSG and it just keeps shifting!! It was in 7th on 70km/h. I cant see these 'boxes lasting very long and i really dont see whats wrong with having a clutch in the car. When did the world become so lazy??? Oh, and whats with farts when shifting? That sounds really bad

End of rant

I would gladly drive a manual, but the 2.0TSI doesn't come with that option!! I couldn't believe they manual GTI but not the manual 2.0T Jetta (GLI).

When you have a spouse who refuses to drive manual transmission, you'll then understand why some ppl have to purchase cars with DSG.

Too bad! Either learn to drive manual or drive the $2,000 Mirage I have in the yard

[triode12]

Too bad! Either learn to drive manual or drive the $2,000 Mirage I have in the yard

LOL! I'll get killed if I ever said that to her.

[hua_qiu]

I am afraid that you mis-understood my point behind my analogy. Those small consumer goods advanced so much. Nowadays, most professional photographers(taking picture for livings) relys on in camera auto-explosure. While can you think any F1 drivers use full-auto gear box without paddle shift?

DSG is briallant in mechanical wise, but this doesn't matter if it can not select the right gear or shift at right point of time. It is still a dumb gear box as many convertional auto gear box before it.

[thezoneR32]

this is a ridculous conversation, go and get your dsg re-set. Its by far the best gearbox on the planet!

[hua_qiu]

this is a ridculous conversation, go and get your dsg re-set. Its by far the best gearbox on the planet!

Thanks for the advice. Please enlight me how I can have it re-set. By saying it's the best, can you also provide some facts?

[thezoneR32]

Not sure how to get it reset. If its under warranty take it to vw and tell them its playing up. People here who have had their's reset are very happy with the results.

My facts are based purely on experience. The rev matching changes are far superior to any slushbox I have ever driven, even better than the famous ZF six speed.

[maca]

I've heard you can reset the 'learning' feature by disconnecting the accelerator pedal for a minute or so, that way the DSG basically goes back to the way it was from factory as opposed adapting to your driving style.

Also, the DSG isn't something to rave about. It's better than a standard auto, but not as connected as a manual. It's essentially the lazy man's manual.

[brimway]

I've heard you can reset the 'learning' feature by disconnecting the accelerator pedal for a minute or so, that way the DSG basically goes back to the way it was from factory as opposed adapting to your driving style.

Also, the DSG isn't something to rave about. It's better than a standard auto, but not as connected as a manual. It's essentially the lazy man's manual.

Simple solution........

If you want a manual, get a manual. If you want an auto, be smart and get a DSG.

[maca]

Simple solution........

If you want a manual, get a manual. If you want an auto, be smart and get a DSG.

Absolutely!

Btw I saw you at Harry's the other night, car looks good