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  • #16
    Originally posted by DeanCorp View Post
    Your joking right? The new Golf R with an intake, downpipe and ecu flash would smoke the MKV R32 out the water. It would actually leave it for dead. My friend has a stg 1 GTI MKV and managed to destroy the R32. Nonetheless, I do agree with you the R32 has an exhaust note to die for. But I would definitely not say it is fast. Yes, I've driven one, in fact I took one home for the weekend when I was buying my car.
    Would probably be more fair to compare a stock R vs R32; I guess most users though would go for a tune + exhaust on the 2.0T regardless. I guess my definition of "annihilated" is that it wouldn't even be able to compare. I would say the R32 should be considered in a similar class; obviously outright performance it will be down several percent in various areas, but I think it remains a competitive car - I was merely pointing out that the R32 is worth it as a second hand buy over a MKV GTI; at least in my eyes it is!
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    • #17
      Originally posted by DNA Tuning View Post
      ...I was merely pointing out that the R32 is worth it as a second hand buy over a MKV GTI; at least in my eyes it is!
      Being a soon to be MKV R32 owner, this is good to hear. (Not that I am after a track weapon)
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      • #18
        if you can get a MK5 R32 at a reasonable price and fuel consump is a non-issue: GO FOR IT!

        waaaaaaay more individual. I don't mean BETTER looking i just mean there are not so many compared with the MK5 GTI.
        not to mention: THAT EXHAUST NOTE!!!
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Valver. View Post
          Sounds very much like a post from a "Mk5 Recruit" - someone who wouldn't have looked twice at the brand until the Mk5 GTI came along.

          Go drive a Mk1 GTI and get back to me when you understand the foundations behind the brand, which a 5dr Mk5 GTI is such a large departure from!
          Wrong. I appreciate everything volkswagen and always wanted a mkIV R32 before I ended up getting the mkV GTI.

          And I (and many others will agree) believe that the mkV GTI is the epitome of what a VW is all about. This car single handedly revived the brand and has been the frontrunner of the now very popular hot hatch market for the last 5 years.

          No doubt the mk1 was great, the mk2 was better, and the mk5 is better again. I don't think you can criticise someone for loving a car of their generation, because there are going to be many people on this forum that are younger than a mk1 golf, but still love the brand.

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          • #20
            Yeah, I'm pretty keen on an R32, especially compared to a Mk V GTI. I think I would only go for a GTI if it were a Mk VI and was at a bargain price. I'm not looking for a track weapon, but a reliable daily drive which can also be used as a great weekender. I have to admit that the Mk V GTI is a bit common, and I've seen all types of people drive them - from young guys to middle aged women!

            That VR6 growl just puts a smile on my face every time.
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            • #21
              I was at this same decision last year. Drove the GTI and R32 back to back. I immediately chose the R32 and it was a no-brainer for me. My reasons were the sound for one and secondly it was the feel of the drive. It just felt like a more solid, planted vehicle and made me feel special. The GTI though is quicker with a remap and more nimble. It just depends what you want from a car. And we all want different things I guess. Both are similar but different vehicles in my opinion. Unless you drive them, no amount of words can steer you really.
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              • #22
                Mk II Audi TT v Mk V Golf GTI

                Besides the sleek looks and coupe body, are they worth the money over a A3 2.0T/GTI?

                Referring to FWD 2.0T models only.
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                • #23
                  that probably depends how much you like the sleek looks and coupe body?

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                  • #24
                    From reviews, it appears the Mk II Audi TT is more than just a pretty face; I think the lower centre of gravity, aerodynamics and perhaps some other small improvements here and there make it worth considering.

                    That said, the premium they command makes it hard to justify imo.
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                    • #25
                      the sound is nice, but the GTI is also missing those BBK up front

                      All the nice extras on a GTI is stock on the r32

                      Go drive a couple back to back and choose - the petrol consumption isnt as bad as everyone is stating, i get 500k's out of a tank and i catch the train to work.....


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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Nathan_B View Post
                        the sound is nice, but the GTI is also missing those BBK up front

                        All the nice extras on a GTI is stock on the r32

                        Go drive a couple back to back and choose - the petrol consumption isnt as bad as everyone is stating, i get 500k's out of a tank and i catch the train to work.....
                        If you catch the train to work, you aren't really driving the car in heavy traffic, that is where an R32 poor fuel economy will show itself.

                        Both are good cars in their own ways like has been repeated a couple of times. Both have their pros and cons. You just have to decide which you are prepared to live with/without.

                        Ideally, if I could afford to own both cars, I'd buy neither. I'd get a Porsche.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by MariusGT View Post
                          if you can get a MK5 R32 at a reasonable price and fuel consump is a non-issue: GO FOR IT!

                          waaaaaaay more individual. I don't mean BETTER looking i just mean there are not so many compared with the MK5 GTI.
                          not to mention: THAT EXHAUST NOTE!!!
                          That comment pretty much sums it up IMO. As others have already said, they're all great cars in their own right, all of them have their pros and cons and arguing over which one is the better car is not helping anyone, in the end the decision of which one to purchase is entirely up to the buyer. I went with the GT TDI because I wanted economy and performance, averaging 800-900 k's with a combination of city / hwy driving and plenty of fanging to boot is fantastic for me. I would suggest to anyone considering buying, do your own homework first, don't rush into it and make sure you weigh up the good and bad points of each model, drive each model as well both manual and DSG and be sure you can afford to own and maintain it. It could save you a lot of money in the long run.
                          Last edited by Russ59; 02-11-2010, 08:54 AM.
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                          • #28
                            here here Russ.

                            what you said is exactly what i did.

                            drove the GT Sport in both TSI and TDI variants, a TDI pacific and a GTI (all MK5).

                            to be honest i probably would have chosen GT Sport TDI if a well priced one popped up before my TSI.
                            also my missus wasn't a fan of the torque surge in both TDI and GTI. TSI is quite linear in comparison.

                            i was looking at 2nd hand cars-- the best GT TDI i could find was about 39k (dealer demo). picked up my TSI privately for 31k with only 3,800kms.

                            drive the models you are looking at. decide on one (or more like i did) and keep an eye out for the right one to show up.
                            Last edited by MariusGT; 02-11-2010, 08:13 PM.
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                            • #29
                              I've toyed with the idea of getting out of my diesel for an R32. A GTI doesn't tempt me though, great as it is.
                              Fraid I'd want to put a diesel back into it though....
                              Last edited by Greg Roles; 03-11-2010, 06:18 AM.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DNA Tuning View Post
                                As nice as a GTI with a tune is, the overall package of the R32 is hard to beat. Not to mention it's the last of the rumbly VR6's for the Golf; it *could* help it sustain its value for longer; especially when you consider that many rank the R32 on par with an S3 performance wise, so it won't get completely annihilated by the new R at least.
                                The R32 could have held it's value but unfortunately it's no different from any other car and it doesn't. There were probably too many produced to make it a collector and the new R trumps it in every way (at least technically, street presence and exhaust/engine note aren't as good and it looks more generic).

                                It is still a great car (and i used to own one) but don't think they are worth the extra $10k considering they are heavier and slower. Although if you aren't into modding and don't want more power than stock then they are a good package. Agree the fuel economy isn't great but that's usually the cheapest cost of owning a car.

                                At least they are a good price second hand now which would suit some people and have more options as standard, but they were too expensive brand new IMO.
                                Last edited by G-rig; 03-11-2010, 06:54 AM.

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