Intercooler testing and details

[Fanaki]

i'm still relatively new to this forum and don't want to sound like i'm taking sides.

from a newbies point of view, i appreciate the information that lucas has put up for us all to read. it has clarified and further expanded my knowledge of how intercoolers work.

i don't think this thread needs to get personal. cog & lucas have supplied useful info and i look forward to hearing what other guys are doing/ have done.

my 2 cents

EDIT: i would also like to add that Guy has, on many occasions, provided useful info.

[TRGTI]

i'm still relatively new to this forum and don't want to sound like i'm taking sides.

from a newbies point of view, i appreciate the information that lucas has put up for us all to read. it has clarified and further expanded my knowledge of how intercoolers work.

i don't think this thread needs to get personal. cog & lucas have supplied useful info and i look forward to hearing what other guys are doing/ have done.

my 2 cents

well said.
i have the VF twin setup.
VF supplied the pipes so i could use my stock IC with the VF one there for more cool air!!!
but i also have VF RSR kit with RSS tune. so i kinda need it

[TRGTI]

After 2 laps the car with the APR intercooler was running an average of 15 degrees cooler than the car with the stock intercooler. The biggest difference (cool down) happened during the cornering, not down the straights (so it was the throttle off or part throttle that showed the cooler charge, therefore starting the full throttle cycle cooler), now we only hit speeds up to 215kmph there, but the slow corners are around 70kmph.

and if you were really racing aren't you supposed to get through and accelerate out of a corner as quick as possible
or do you have 4km corners in qld?

[10d]

[Guy_H]

and if you were really racing aren't you supposed to get through and accelerate out of a corner as quick as possible
or do you have 4km corners in qld?

Never had your car on a track I gather?

So I take it there is no data for this thread then - nobody apart from me tested MKV intercoolers - stock & aftermarket?

[Tim]

Never had your car on a track I gather?

So I take it there is no data for this thread then - nobody apart from me tested MKV intercoolers - stock & aftermarket?

Duuuuuuuude. Why be hatin?!
The innitial post has some interesting factual information. There was no promise of data. The innitial statement was even backed up by the APR link that you posted.

If you want to post some data up then by all means start a thread and do so (I know, I know you need to protect your secrets). But it would be nice to see a real post thats not just spamming products.
Until youre willing to participate within the community can ya just shut ya cake-hole outside of your sale threads please.

[Water Boy]

Geee some people spend more time knocking the oposition than actually doing work!

Props to Lucas for taking the time to write an interesting article that gives people an insight into their cars.

[Guy_H]

OK,

What would you say about an intercooler that was designed with documents from Volkswagen with their wind tunnel testing & bumper airflow design & specifications (MKV Specific).

Do you think that this intercooler would have benefits over ones designed without that information?

Comments please.

[manol]

Jeepers dude.

All Lucas did was post some information regarding intercoolers. He never stated that AWE/VF/or whatever else brand's intercoolers are better than APR or any other vendor. He didn't dispute any data, he didn't do anything.

As Tim said, there was no promise of any data or anything, if there's anything I have to criticize Lucas about in that post it's his terrible formatting and lack of proof reading .

But otherwise he did not start a flame war at all, even though I am a GIAC/Eurospeed guy i'll openly admit that both camps (APR/Eurospeed) say inflammatory things that try to get a rise out of each other. I don't LIKE it, but it's the way competition is.

But this is just unprofessional and unnecessary on your behalf Guy. I don't even understand why you are posting what you are posting what do your requests have ANYTHING to do with what the original post stated?

[Tim]

OK,

What would you say about an intercooler that was designed with documents from Volkswagen with their wind tunnel testing & bumper airflow design & specifications (MKV Specific).

Do you think that this intercooler would have benefits over ones designed without that information?

Comments please.

Maybe. Maybe not. Where is the test data?

To be honest it sounds like it would be a handy thing to have up your sleeve for the marketing dept to go wild on.

In reality it's most likely data built around a stock car with stock turbo at stock boost level in the stock fmic location which is clearly a compromise. Is it entirely relevant to an aftermarket solution in a true front mount position? Not really

[TRGTI]

Never had your car on a track I gather?

LOL
thats all you can do Guy,
ASSUME!! even with problems.

so sandown isn't a track??

[twin eng, twin turbs]

Does any of the aftermarket tuners offer a water to air alternative for the MK5? If so I would like to see comparative testing between these and air to air intercoolers in real driving conditions on road and track...

[Tim]

Cant say ive seen water to air on a mkv. By all reports they are quite efficient but just dont seem to be that popular.

If youre chasing super cool intake temps then water/meth injection is something worth investigating as well. Might also be helpful to keep the mkv heads a little cleaner