LSD for DSG on a GTI

[John Deere]

Struggling to get the power down through the corners, and from all accounts an LSD will help. The search turned up a little, but not much specific to DSG.....So I have a few questions:

Has anyone installed one?

What types have people used?

Any reliabiliy issues that people know about?

How much to a)purchase and b)install?

Who is Sydney should I trust my girl to??

[Maverick]

Check out golfmkv.com but for general road use they seem to be a waste of time, they're good on the track but not on the road.

I'd check out your front tyres first, it's they cheap tyres get something decent as this will play more of a role than a LSD and if that fails changing your driving style is all there is left.

The standard LSD's fitted are around $3500 IIRC with a proper LSD $5-6000.

[John Deere]

The problem mainly exists at the track. Tyres are Yoki Advan AD08 (Semi Slicks) and I dont think they are the weak link.
The problem is not the wheels spinning all the time (I try not to let that happen), but a matter of wanting to get more of the available power down through the back of the corners.

Thanks for the figures.

[Timbo]

Welcome to tracking FWDs

[noone]

The issue is the pressure on your inside wheel is less than that on your outside wheel (which you obviously know).

What about an upgraded or added swaybar or stiffer suspension?

[John Deere]

A very logical thing to consider. Only issue is I like the comfort of the daily drive as it is....and LSD probably would not affect that, suspension would, though a sway bar or two, not so much (and have been thought about a few times).

The balancing act continues.

[TRGTI]

i have one installed on my GTI.
although i have VF STG3 kit installed so i need it anyways. gotta get the power down somehow
i got the Peloquin LSD for DSG.
cost me all up 2K landed and another $800.00 fitted, but that was with the DSG already off the car. labour will cost more if the workshop has to take the DSG out themselves.

if you track your car than the LSD is worth it.
no more inside wheel spinning!

[PASHN8]

Much difference on the street or launch, or is it really more for corner exit traction?

[TRGTI]

Much difference on the street or launch, or is it really more for corner exit traction?

there is a difference on the street. i found that out doing a U-turn. lol forgot that i had the LSD in and was expecting the inner wheel to spin but nope. the car basically tracked where the wheels were facing and i nearly went straight over the median strip again. launching is also better. but corner exit is where you can feel the extra traction. you can actually feel it pull the car out of the corner.

[John Deere]

Great info, thanks.

Where did you get it from?

[schoona]

Peloquin and Quaifes are the ones you are looking for. Possibly Wavetrac make one too.

Lots of US tuning sites have them, I think APR and Quaife are in partnership also.

[TRGTI]

Great info, thanks.

Where did you get it from?

i got mine from Lucas @ EUROSPEED.

[NabzGTI]

I was also looking into getting an LSD kit for my GTI. There are only 2 you can buy for the DSG at the moment:

Peloquin: http://www.peloquins.com/products_02E2W.html
Quaife: http://www.quaife.co.uk/VW-DSG-ATB-diff

You can easily shop around by using the model numbers in google or something. They are very similar in reviews.. it all comes down to preference.

Personally, I dont think you should go down the LSD path unless you go big turbo upgrade first. Stick to things like suspension, mounts/inserts, tyres, swaybars and anti lift kits.

From what I've heard, the Whiteline Anti Lift Kit (WALK) is the best bang for buck and is the best way to reduce wheelspin after LSD. LSD is definitely the "best" way, but you may get caught out on normal street driving, not to mention it's cost.

If you do decide to go down the LSD path, make sure you take it to someone VERY experienced with the DSG gearbox.. it is very intricate and is worth in excess of $10,000 on its own.

Good luck either way.

[bazzle]

In my past................. front lsd's were a pain, gave massive understeer under hard power apps. You had to change your whole driving stlye, ie. hard into corner slight throttle lift to bring rear around a bit and then power out. Bit hard to do on the road though.

Bazzle

[schnitzel baby]

I've now had three FWD cars with limited slip diffs and I wouldn't have one without it now. Seb recently installed one (Peloquin) in my MKV just before I did the ATC at Lang Lang and it made a remarkable difference.

Cost is somewhere between $2500 and $3500 installed and you want to get a Quaiffe or Peloquin. The standard open diffs send power to the wheel with least grip, the torque sensing (Torsen) Peloquins and Quaiffes send power to the wheel with most grip. Also, torque steer has been virtually non existent.