Mk 6 GTI XDL for Mk 5 GTI????

[Man In Black (MIB)]

Just been reading the Wheels supplement on the new Mk 6 GTI. It explains the new XDL (Electronic Diff Lock) function as a software tweak to the existing ESP program. This got me thinking. Could this software tweak be applied to my Mk 5 GTI thus giving it an XDL capability?

Does anyone know if this is being worked on or available? I would certainly upset VW.

[mikinoz]

I thought about that when it was explained on the Academy day.

I reckon there is some engineering required to make it work, and won't be simple to do - however there are surely people out there if this is possible that will nut it out.

[Guy_H]

It Is possible to do it, but by the time you replace all your wiring, engine ecu's, (engine as well), ESP computer, I'm sure the bill will far exceed the cost of a new GTI .

Unfortunately its all next generation stuff.

Another option is to install a clutch type LSD & have a real diff for about 4-6k - not quite the same as a new GTI, but much more effective.

[logger]

The boggo MK6 TSI has the XDL (Electronic Diff Lock) as well. So not exclusive to the GTI.

[John Deere]

Another option is to install a clutch type LSD & have a real diff for about 4-6k - not quite the same as a new GTI, but much more effective.

Does this mod mean traction control/ESP is out the window, or will it still work?

[Man In Black (MIB)]

It Is possible to do it, but by the time you replace all your wiring, engine ecu's, (engine as well), ESP computer, I'm sure the bill will far exceed the cost of a new GTI.

Wow, the info to date says its a software upgrade to the ESP. How do you arrive at a new engine too? In fact, can anyone explain how the ESP works as I was under the impression it was not contoled from the ECU but had its own sensors and feedbacck into the ECU.

Thanks.

[GoLfMan]

no point dude, just get an old school mechanical LSD, much better

[Guy_H]

MK5's run ME9 engine management tied in with ESP & Particularly the ABS unit (controls most of the ESP) - The MKVI is version 70 - Mark V is version 60.

The MKVI runs ME17.5 engine management that talks to the new ABS controller.

Hell, even the tyre pressure monitors (rolling diameter) talks a lot faster on the MKVI.

There is not much shared in that part of the electrical system.

Oh, back to the start - you would need the new ABS system to run XDL, therefore the new engine management, therefore the new engine

[Guy_H]

P.S. love the Red GTI - I get my MKVI on Thursday

[logger]

P.S. love the Red GTI - I get my MKVI on Thursday

Half your luck - Green with envy. No doubt it will be a beast once you have finished tinkering with it.

...the ABS unit (controls most of the ESP) - The MKVI is version 70 - Mark V is version 60.

Drifting the thread & sorry to be a pedant, but I am confused with versions and marks. - Guy don't you mean the Mark6 has the newer MK60EC1 whereas the Mark 5 has the older MK60 ABS unit. Just that MK60 is ABS/ESP and MK70 is only ABS. So bigger number is less sophisticated in this regard. Or am I confusing MKs with Versions?
Cheers Logger.

Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102 =MK5
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H35 0106 =MK6
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H45 0108 =MK6 GTI

[Guy_H]

Just Talking about the Teves Head unit - The MKVI uses the G70 unit (or the ones I have had here do) and our MKV's use the G60 unit. Ultimately this unit (ABS controller) is what is doing the ESP & XDL duties.

Even going from your numbers (software controllers?) - they are different versions!

[logger]

I get it now. I was confusing the version of the ABS unit itself with the software controller therein. Thanks for the explanation.

[Guy_H]

Good link - Continental have purchased a huge amount of companies in the past couple of years (Like Siemens / VDO) - they are becoming an automotive powerhouse!