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thanks guys..... mum and bub are doing well so far.
my foot is steady on the throttle... though it is only a very small % that i have applied.
used to think it was me doing it by going on and off the pedal... but foot is steady on it.
also noticed it only does it when warmed up. when cold it will hold first gear till about 2-2500 rpm so this surge will not happen.
my jetta has the 2.0T 6DSG and its chipped.
1974 1300 Beetle, 1997 Golf GL, 2003 New Beetle Cabrio, 2014 Audi A4 quattro
know its an old post but gonna continue with it.....
Have booked mine in (20th Jan is the earliest) and they will reset the gearbox to see if that helps. If not they will then replace some parts on it....
So fingers crossed the issues i have with mine will be resolved shortly.
1974 1300 Beetle, 1997 Golf GL, 2003 New Beetle Cabrio, 2014 Audi A4 quattro
If I need to creep, I always select manual and first to stop it shifting to second.
Yeah I reckon that is an excellent strategy. I do same with the DSG7. Stops the the clunk you get when you back off when creeping in D (drive). If you were to look at VAG telemetry at this point you would see that both clutches are slipping and both 1st & 2nd are selected as its smoothly transitioning from 1st to second over a couple of seconds. Backing off at this point as you might do when creeping in traffic causes the lurch as it disengages the slipping K2 clutch and fully engages the K1 removing slip on that drivetrain.
So when creeping in traffic just start in Tiptronic and crawl in 1st to prevent this happing and flick sideways to D if you get a clearance to resume profile speed. Just watch the Oxy bottles though JB
Golf Mk6 118 TSI DSG |APR Stage I ECU Upgrade | HEX-USB+CAN
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I noticed a slight clunky noise when shifting from N to D or D to N whereas shifting from D to S and back not a sound experienced. Same when shifting from R to N or N to R and not a sound. Is this normal experience?
Thanks and regards
NS
VW Golf MY09 MkV DSG 2.0 TDi Pacific United Grey
Opal Head Unit - Jomlook DRL
WOB = Wolfsburg - Vfl Wolfsburg Deutscher Meister 2009
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I noticed a slight clunky noise when shifting from N to D or D to N whereas shifting from D to S and back not a sound experienced. Same when shifting from R to N or N to R and not a sound. Is this normal experience?
Thanks and regards
NS
If you're shifting D to S, the greabox is already engaged, so you won't or shouldn't hear a clunk. Shifting from D to S only tells the ECU to change the shift patterns.
From N to D or R, you might hear something but it shouldn't be too loud.
I noticed a slight clunky noise when shifting from N to D or D to N whereas shifting from D to S and back not a sound experienced. Same when shifting from R to N or N to R and not a sound. Is this normal experience?
Thanks and regards
NS
Yeah thats normal. When you are in N one gear shaft is in 1st gear and the other is in reverse. When you move the selector away from N to R or D one of the shafts will de-select the inappropriate gear as the case may be. What you are hearing is the hydraulic actuator selecting or deselecting gears. D to S or Tiptronic changes nothing on the shafts. As you can see below when in N or P two opposing gears will be selected
Happen to be hooked up to VAGCom right now so here is a log to show how it works.
selector lever position | Gear Drive Shaft 1 | Drive Shaft 2
Code:
[B][COLOR="Red"]N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR[/COLOR][/B]
D 1N NR
D 1N NR
D 1N Nx
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T+ 1N NN
T+ 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T- 1N NN
T- 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
T 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
S 1N NN
S 1N NN
S 1N NN
S 1N NN
S 1N NN
S 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
D 1N NN
N 1N NN
N 1N Nx
[B][COLOR="red"]N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR[/COLOR][/B]
R 1N NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
R NN NR
NN NR
P NN NR
P xN NR
P 1N NR
P 1N NR
P 1N NR
P 1N NR
P 1N NR
P 1N NR
P 1N NR
P 1N NR
P 1N NR
P 1N NR
1N NR
R 1N NR
R 1N NR
R 1N NR
[B][COLOR="red"] N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR
N 1N NR[/COLOR][/B]
P 1N NR
P xN NR
P 1N NR
P 1N NR
Golf Mk6 118 TSI DSG |APR Stage I ECU Upgrade | HEX-USB+CAN
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Hi Guys,
Thank you very much for the quick replies and advice.
So nothing to worry about then. Apart from my querie the DSG in my TDi performs well.
btw: interesting data VAG COM, much appreciated.
Regards, NS
VW Golf MY09 MkV DSG 2.0 TDi Pacific United Grey
Opal Head Unit - Jomlook DRL
WOB = Wolfsburg - Vfl Wolfsburg Deutscher Meister 2009
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well picked my car up after the dealer looked at it.
They have the go ahead to replace the mechatronics control unit.
Just have to wait now for the bits to arrive from singapore.
1974 1300 Beetle, 1997 Golf GL, 2003 New Beetle Cabrio, 2014 Audi A4 quattro
Yeah I reckon that is an excellent strategy. I do same with the DSG7. Stops the the clunk you get when you back off when creeping in D (drive). If you were to look at VAG telemetry at this point you would see that both clutches are slipping and both 1st & 2nd are selected as its smoothly transitioning from 1st to second over a couple of seconds. Backing off at this point as you might do when creeping in traffic causes the lurch as it disengages the slipping K2 clutch and fully engages the K1 removing slip on that drivetrain.
So when creeping in traffic just start in Tiptronic and crawl in 1st to prevent this happing and flick sideways to D if you get a clearance to resume profile speed. Just watch the Oxy bottles though JB
Am I reading this right ?
If I drive in heavy traffic a lot and don't want to be changing gears all the time like I would have to with a manual gearbox, then a salesperson will tell me I should buy a Golf with DSG, and it will change gears for me.
BUT, if I have a DSG and I want to drive smoothly in stop-start traffic, avoiding clunks when backing off then I should manually select gears in the DSG before taking off.
Am I the only one to think this sort of defeats the purpose a bit ? Or is this perfectly acceptable to people with DSGs ?
(disclaimer - I could be slightly stirring here, but I think I am raising a valid point )
2017 MY18 Golf R 7.5 Wolfsburg wagon (boring white) delivered 21 Sep 2017, 2008 Octavia vRS wagon 2.0 TFSI 6M (bright yellow), 2006 T5 Transporter van 2.5 TDI 6M (gone but not forgotten).
If I drive in heavy traffic a lot and don't want to be changing gears all the time like I would have to with a manual gearbox, then a salesperson will tell me I should buy a Golf with DSG, and it will change gears for me.
BUT, if I have a DSG and I want to drive smoothly in stop-start traffic, avoiding clunks when backing off then I should manually select gears in the DSG before taking off.
Am I the only one to think this sort of defeats the purpose a bit ? Or is this perfectly acceptable to people with DSGs ?
(disclaimer - I could be slightly stirring here, but I think I am raising a valid point )
You are stirring. Mine drives ok. Everyone to there own.
Bazzle
Prev 2008 R32 3 door DSG.
Prev 2010 S3 Sportback Stronic.
Now Lexus IS350 F Sport
If I drive in heavy traffic a lot and don't want to be changing gears all the time like I would have to with a manual gearbox, then a salesperson will tell me I should buy a Golf with DSG, and it will change gears for me.
BUT, if I have a DSG and I want to drive smoothly in stop-start traffic, avoiding clunks when backing off then I should manually select gears in the DSG before taking off.
Am I the only one to think this sort of defeats the purpose a bit ? Or is this perfectly acceptable to people with DSGs ?
(disclaimer - I could be slightly stirring here, but I think I am raising a valid point )
It's a bit like why does a motorbike fall over when you stop moving. They don't tell you that in the sales spiel...but why would you believe a car salesman anyway, and then use what they say to stir?????.
I find the DSG is not in its sweet spot when crawling in traffic. Nothing is perfect in all scenarios.
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2008 Blue Graphite GTI DSG with Latte leather. SOLD 4/9/2024
...but why would you believe a car salesman anyway
That's very true, their job is to sell you one of their cars, nothing more, nothing less. Unless you get them to put it in writing you rely on what some of them say at your peril (but the last four I've dealt with were quite fine, but some of the previous ones were pretty useless)
I find the DSG is not in its sweet spot when crawling in traffic. Nothing is perfect in all scenarios.
I think a DSG could be programmed to perform better in these circumstances. All the information is available to the electronic brain to not start changing to second until the driver puts their foot down a bit more (ie requests more speed).
I suspect that it is done this way in the interests of pursuing that last fraction of a litre reduction in fuel economy. Maybe a future iteration of the software will be programmed better ?
2017 MY18 Golf R 7.5 Wolfsburg wagon (boring white) delivered 21 Sep 2017, 2008 Octavia vRS wagon 2.0 TFSI 6M (bright yellow), 2006 T5 Transporter van 2.5 TDI 6M (gone but not forgotten).
Programming should be easy - there should be a third mode between default and sport, that shifts at say 2200 (GTI engine) rather than the 1600 in D and the insane (for town driving) in S
The S mode is fantastic when having fun through twisties
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2008 Blue Graphite GTI DSG with Latte leather. SOLD 4/9/2024
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