1.4 APR Chip - First Impressions

[BarneyBoy]

I think the word kaoticice used was "appear" faster, Mav.
He never said it "is" faster. Chill, fella.

And Paul's assertion that the chipped TSI may be quicker due to its power:weight ratio is just as valid (maybe more so) as your Dyno assertion.
But then again, all dynos are inaccurate, aren't they Mav?

Only way any of us will know is a good, old-fashioned standing 400 meters between both cars.

[Maverick]

I think the word kaoticice used was "appear" faster, Mav.
He never said it "is" faster. Chill, fella.

Read what I said again and toddle off and troll somewhere else.

And Paul's assertion that the chipped TSI may be quicker due to its power:weight ratio is just as valid (maybe more so) as your Dyno assertion.
But then again, all dynos are inaccurate, aren't they Mav?

I never said that, what I did do was quote what the Dyno manufacturers themselves say which is that you can't use Dyno's for comparisons as there are too many variables, tuning is a different story and this is what they're designed for. What is useful is the curve and comparing peak power is useless as it doesn't show the increase that GTI picks up midrange when boost really kicks in.

Only way any of us will know is a good, old-fashioned standing 400 meters between both cars.

Still many variables in that including suspension, tyres, wheels and so on to contend with.

[guliver_twist]

would love to see a race between a chipped TSi and stock mk5 GTI
GTom is it possible to have you record a sprint from 0-100? of your speedo(or time yourself)? That way we can see how long a modded car takes...
What is the ingeer acceleration like...e.g. pull in 6th gear vs stock 6th
Has anyone chipped their MK6?

[BarneyBoy]

Read what I said again and toddle off and troll somewhere else.

You said "The TSI can appear faster all it wants doesn't change the fact it's slower!" As I said, he never claimed is was faster.

As for "Trolling":
I have a TSI, you don't.
This thread is _specifically_ about TSIs - that makes YOU the troll.
Before you condescendingly accuse others, go find a mirror and give yourself a long hard look.

Fair dinkum Maverick, you'd have to be about as tactless a human being as is possible. Why not learn how to write? It's an art - there are no visual, audio, or annunciation clues that accompany the words. This forum is what it is - it's not World Peace, it's not a cure for cancer, and it's not a place where Maverick sticks his beak into even threads where he has no specific knowledge only to abuse anybody and everybody who dares to express an opinion.

Post after post after post you seem to be able to crawl right up many, many folks arses, all through incompetent choices of words. And if it's NOT an incompetent choice of words, I fear that would make you a 1st class prick, and I'm extending you the benefit of the doubt in that area.

The forum is supposedly a friendly exchange of opinions - you have successfully transformed it into an "I'm always right, and you're a ****head if you don't agree with me" forum.

Thanks for nothing, now piss off.

[POLARBEAR666]

PUT HIM ON IGNORE... like i have.

[kaoticice]

aw, c'mon guys.. chill it!!

I think Marv was just making a straight opinion on my post, and i didn't think the comment was intended to offend me and others in anyway. Maybe he's a little 'too' directive in his way of commenting (maybe some sentences aren't suppose to be there in the first place), that may possibly generate misunderstanding.

Let's all stop the .. instead we should all resolve this with

continuing the thread... can we see the video comparison sooon?

[sameatworld]

I agree

Have been following both this and mkv forum for over a year and am just sick of Mav's antics. Jesus just shut the hell up!!

I have a chipped GTI but also have driven TSI on many occasions as my flat mate has one. It's a fantastic engine with absolutely no lag. I would assume that APR tune will make it more punchy without the crazy amount of wheel spin you get in mine when you give it some.

[Maverick]

You said "The TSI can appear faster all it wants doesn't change the fact it's slower!" As I said, he never claimed is was faster.

And I never claimed that he said it was faster, you can try and twist my words around all you like but it doesn't change what I wrote.

kaoticice said that turbocharged cars lack throttle response to which I said that the GTI with the K03 doesn't suffer from turbo lag like other cars and I found the throttle response to be good. The comments were all related around the topic of throttle response and the way that the twin charger delivers power differently to a turbo.

As for "Trolling":
I have a TSI, you don't.
This thread is _specifically_ about TSIs - that makes YOU the troll.

Try again, did you miss the GTI reference that I was responding to, oh I guess you're too busy trolling to notice that.

blah blah blah blah.....
Thanks for nothing, now piss off.

Try taking your own advice

[Golf Houso]

[h100vw]

Nice weed!

[Golf Houso]

Nice weed!

Why thank you Sir, how kind of you to notice
I think it sums up pretty well how myself and probably the majority of other people are feeling towards this thread in its current state...

[VW Convert]

Why thank you Sir, how kind of you to notice
I think it sums up pretty well how myself and probably the majority of other people are feeling towards this thread in its current state...

I'm getting this feeling of Déjà Vu!

Cheers

George

[Golf Houso]

I'm getting this feeling of Déjà Vu!

Cheers

George

Yeah me too George, I also have a feeling it won't be the last time either

At least the tumbleweed made a comeback

[BarneyBoy]

PUT HIM ON IGNORE... like i have.

Good advice, Polar.

This thread is like tucking into a nice bowl of soup and then discovering a pube in it.

Anyway... as I was saying... It'd be nice to see how this APR chip compares with the Revo and Oettinger.

Anyone have either of these?

[stephen8512]

chipped GT TSI vs stock GTI.....

dunno about anyone else but I'd be very interested as to what the outcome of this would be.

mav was saying that there were too many variables regarding a 1/4 mile drag between the 2 cars. I agree with the comment regarding wheels, but I can't see how the other variables might hinder the outcome if its against a STOCK GTI vs a STOCK GT TSI with an APR chip (yes, technically its not STOCK anymore but stock in terms of suspension, etc).

for argument sake, if both cars had the same fresh wheels (same wheel make and model etc) and if they both went down the 1/4 mile, it would be very interesting as to where the chipped GT comes in. i'd think itd be a very close outcome

I suppose to compare, it should also do a run against a completely stock, non chipped GT TSI with the stock GTI.

At the end of the day, a chip is to increase the performance and remove the restrictions from the factory ECU and it seems like the APR chip definitely has done that. As to whether or not a chipped GT is faster than a stock GTI, who really cares? if a GTI really is faster, so what? everybody got their car for whatever reason and these sorts of comparisons are useless. Whatever makes ya happy is what counts....