DSG Reverse Lagging

[aDg3]

Hi All,

I've just bought a GTI (5dr) with DSG and have been reading these forums for months before doing so.

Anyways, this being my 1st new car ever I think the DSG gearbox is stuffing up.

What happens is, I put it into reverse, hit the gas pedal, car (80% of the time) revs then clicks in then moves back. Is this normal? I've only had it for 3 days.

Is it maybe something that needs to be "run in" - I don't think so though. I'll probably call the dealer or the service centre some time today to find out but I thought I'd post it up here to find out if this is normal or not and furthermore if it's happened to you how long was the "repair" for it to be normal.

Thanks

[blutopless2]

mine does not do this... there should be a slight pause when you lift off the brake till the clutches start to disengage then the car should move backwards... no clicking etc...
the only thing i have found to be a pain with reverse is the lurching when you apply any throttle.

[aDg3]

mine does not do this... there should be a slight pause when you lift off the brake till the clutches start to disengage then the car should move backwards... no clicking etc...
the only thing i have found to be a pain with reverse is the lurching when you apply any throttle.

I'll check that when I spend some more time with it today after work.

I'm finding it's also happening on plain flat roads also.
Appreciate the help

[WEDEL.1]

My is perfect....no such delays.....in fact, I can't get used to it engaging so quickly, unlike our Polo, which does have delays engaging first & reverse.

Maris

[bazzle]

Mine takes a second or so in the transition from 1st to rev.
I do hear driveline soft "clunk" IF I listen real hard.

I cant see an issue with it yet.

I would drive yours a bit more maybe? Say a couple of weeks?

Bazzle

[aDg3]

Mine takes a second or so in the transition from 1st to rev.
I do hear driveline soft "clunk" IF I listen real hard.

I cant see an issue with it yet.

I would drive yours a bit more maybe? Say a couple of weeks?

Bazzle

Yes I was thinking that also. I've transitioned from a Camry to the GTI and found this a little weird.

[gerhard]

Yes I was thinking that also. I've transitioned from a Camry to the GTI and found this a little weird.

The DSG is not the same as an automatic transmission in other cars.

It is a manual with automated clutches, quite different in behaviour to a torque converter system.

When you put it in reverse, release the brake, wait for the clutch to engage, and only then apply throttle if required. You will find it moves quite fast enough without applying throttle, on flat ground.

Moving from a Camry to a GTI - wow - you will find quite a few things a bit weird, especially the driving pleasure

[aDg3]

When you put it in reverse, release the brake, wait for the clutch to engage, and only then apply throttle if required. You will find it moves quite fast enough without applying throttle, on flat ground.

Moving from a Camry to a GTI - wow - you will find quite a few things a bit weird, especially the driving pleasure

Thanks man!
I'll have to check if I usually have my foot on the brake or not. I think on the flat surface I don't. Am I meant to be placing the foot on the brake when putting it into R from say D, on the flat...I think on the flat once the car's warm etc I don't and it works without the clutch noise

[gerhard]

Thanks man!
I'll have to check if I usually have my foot on the brake or not. I think on the flat surface I don't. Am I meant to be placing the foot on the brake when putting it into R from say D, on the flat...I think on the flat once the car's warm etc I don't and it works without the clutch noise

I've got into the habit of always having my foot on the brake when stationary, and when moving between D and R. Doing this also prevents selection lockout - if you leave the car in N for a while, you then cannot select D or R until you have applied the brake, you even get a dash light warning. Also, when in gear and brake applied, the clutches are released, whereas if in gear and handbrake the clutch is engaged.

[aDg3]

I've got into the habit of always having my foot on the brake when stationary, and when moving between D and R. Doing this also prevents selection lockout - if you leave the car in N for a while, you then cannot select D or R until you have applied the brake, you even get a dash light warning. Also, when in gear and brake applied, the clutches are released, whereas if in gear and handbrake the clutch is engaged.

Definetely interesting, I now remember doing a 3pt U turn and putting the brakes on to stop the car going forward like an Automatic goes...hmm..got to retest tonight

[aDg3]

My is perfect....no such delays.....in fact, I can't get used to it engaging so quickly, unlike our Polo, which does have delays engaging first & reverse.

Maris

Just a Q there mate, do you hold the brake when transitioning between the gears?

[Maverick]

Just a Q there mate, do you hold the brake when transitioning between the gears?

You have to or it won't let you change from Neutral or Park without your foot on the brake pedal.

[aDg3]

You have to or it won't let you change from Neutral or Park without your foot on the brake pedal.

In that case, my car probably has a problem. In the mornings I usually start up, change from P to R, and reverse out...but it lags

[Maverick]

In that case, my car probably has a problem. In the mornings I usually start up, change from P to R, and reverse out...but it lags

Define lags? The DSG operates differently to an Auto and it can take some time to adapt to driving one, I'm still getting used to it after six months.

When you start the car it probably has 1st and 2nd gear pre-selected so by going straight into reverse it has to change gears.

If you start the car, put it into reverse, wait a few seconds and then release the brake for it to engage and then lightly press the accelerator pedal what happens?

[aDg3]

Define lags? The DSG operates differently to an Auto and it can take some time to adapt to driving one, I'm still getting used to it after six months.

When you start the car it probably has 1st and 2nd gear pre-selected so by going straight into reverse it has to change gears.

If you start the car, put it into reverse, wait a few seconds and then release the brake for it to engage and then lightly press the accelerator pedal what happens?

Yes, it is diff from an Auto. One of the dealerships wants me to come in so that he can check it out and probably explain it all to me.

If I start the car, put it in reverse etc and wait a few seconds, on a small decline, the car still does it. I'm finding it happens when I hit 1000rpm, and that's when the car actually moves.

I can try it later, but on the flat I noticed it was also happening.