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  • #16
    Originally posted by Maverick View Post
    Define lags?
    By lag I mean, I put the car into reverse, push down on the gas, car firstly revs to 1000rpm before moving.
    And just before it gets moving, I hear a clunk noise then the car moves
    Last edited by aDg3; 10-11-2008, 05:37 PM.

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    • #17
      Mines a little laggy. But it is reverse... I mean unless I'm out trying to perfect my stunt driving, the lag doesnt worry me too much.

      BTW, going slightly offtopic. The DSG is great for doing stupid stuff (skid pan of course, tyres cost too much otherwise) but you can do a 180* turn with a roll back so easy. As soon as it goes backwards clutch in! Its tops!
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      • #18
        Originally posted by aDg3 View Post
        By lag I mean, I put the car into reverse, push down on the gas, car firstly revs to 1000rpm before moving.
        And just before it gets moving, I hear a clunk noise then the car moves
        I think you are doing it wrong.

        Start the car, put it into reverse, do NOT apply throttle until the car starts to move, ie, until it has fully engaged the clutch.

        It seems what you are doing is like being in a manual car, revving it, and letting the clutch out suddenly, rather than engaging the clutch gently and then applying throttle.
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        • #19
          Meant to add, it is not like a torque converter auto, where you can select reverse, feel it hook up, blip the throttle to get motion, and let the torque converter absorb a lot of the thrust.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by gerhard View Post
            I think you are doing it wrong.

            Start the car, put it into reverse, do NOT apply throttle until the car starts to move, ie, until it has fully engaged the clutch.

            It seems what you are doing is like being in a manual car, revving it, and letting the clutch out suddenly, rather than engaging the clutch gently and then applying throttle.
            Hey Gerhard, Thanks for the help so far man.

            Yes I tried that also, ie waited for the car to move without me hitting the gas pedal. Now I'm convinced there's something wrong with it as it still makes that sound when moving without me doing anything except lifting my foot off the brake.

            Hopefully I'll take it in tomorrow for a check up

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            • #21
              Originally posted by aDg3 View Post
              Hey Gerhard, Thanks for the help so far man.

              Yes I tried that also, ie waited for the car to move without me hitting the gas pedal. Now I'm convinced there's something wrong with it as it still makes that sound when moving without me doing anything except lifting my foot off the brake.

              Hopefully I'll take it in tomorrow for a check up
              No probs, when you take it in, suggest to them that it might need a DSG reset - search the forum for info about this. It's a reset of the TCU and requires a drive sequence after being done to reset the clutches, etc.

              It has reportedly helped a few people with issues.

              I imagine they would do that anyway, before deciding if the Mechatronics unit requires replacement.

              Good luck
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              • #22
                Originally posted by gerhard View Post
                No probs, when you take it in, suggest to them that it might need a DSG reset - search the forum for info about this. It's a reset of the TCU and requires a drive sequence after being done to reset the clutches, etc.

                It has reportedly helped a few people with issues.

                I imagine they would do that anyway, before deciding if the Mechatronics unit requires replacement.

                Good luck
                Thanks mate, will do.
                Hopefully it's all good, it seems like everything I buy this yr has broken down in some shape or form

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                • #23
                  i have the same problem as you aDg3..

                  Mine is a gt sport but experience the same issue not only with reverse but also when the car first move into gear 1.

                  I had put up with it thinking its something i did wrong for the past 2 months now i think i should put it in for a check as well.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BigMan View Post
                    i have the same problem as you aDg3..

                    Mine is a gt sport but experience the same issue not only with reverse but also when the car first move into gear 1.

                    I had put up with it thinking its something i did wrong for the past 2 months now i think i should put it in for a check as well.
                    yer def get it checked it. I know it's new technology etc, but if it's working in D, why not R (in my case). In D it's fine, but in R it's doing it. Hopefully we don't get charged for any of this, esp since I've only had it since Thurs 6th Nov

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                    • #25
                      Guys, I (well my dad) got it checked out.
                      The mechanic at VW said it's normal! It's like I think Gerhard said, when the car stops it takes time to change gears as it might have stopped on 2, still I find it quite weird.

                      Bigman, if your's is still doing it in D, I'd be getting it checked out.

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                      • #26
                        thanks for the update mate.

                        will definately get it checked but the question is when i have time

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BigMan View Post
                          thanks for the update mate.

                          will definately get it checked but the question is when i have time
                          No worries.

                          A big thanks to Gerhard too for helping out.

                          I still think the noise it makes is still abnormal
                          Last edited by aDg3; 12-11-2008, 08:31 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Does anyone else have a DSG which shudders in reverse?

                            I can't actually reverse up hills at the moment. The car just doesn't want to do it. Revs out to about 2500rpm before it starts moving.

                            Shudders sometimes when it changes gears too (in drive).

                            I also have trouble getting moving up steep hills from a standstill and trying to go forwards. On the street i live on when I pull out of driveway in the morning I have to rev to about 2500rpm to get moving (when its cold!!! god i hate revving it when its cold). If i don't push it over this seemingly magic number it just sits there crawling and grumbling very much sounding like the driver can't operate the clutch.

                            Its starting to get quite frustrating.

                            And its back into its habbit of riding the clutch constantly when you come to a complete stop. And with the aircon on it makes the floorpan vibrate more than my diesel patrol does at idle.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Yom View Post
                              Does anyone else have a DSG which shudders in reverse?

                              I can't actually reverse up hills at the moment. The car just doesn't want to do it. Revs out to about 2500rpm before it starts moving.

                              Shudders sometimes when it changes gears too (in drive).

                              I also have trouble getting moving up steep hills from a standstill and trying to go forwards. On the street i live on when I pull out of driveway in the morning I have to rev to about 2500rpm to get moving (when its cold!!! god i hate revving it when its cold). If i don't push it over this seemingly magic number it just sits there crawling and grumbling very much sounding like the driver can't operate the clutch.

                              Its starting to get quite frustrating.

                              And its back into its habbit of riding the clutch constantly when you come to a complete stop. And with the aircon on it makes the floorpan vibrate more than my diesel patrol does at idle.
                              There is something seriously not right there.

                              Have you thought of a visit to the dealer?
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                              • #30
                                yes its going in for some warranty work in december.

                                whats going to be fun is getting it to do all its tricks for the dealer.

                                The reverse and hill start issues seem to be much more pronounced when cold.

                                I am expecting the "thats normal" response.


                                next time i'll just get the manual.

                                ps: to top it off dumb tart housemate dented the drivers door this morning while leaving. i have no proof but know it was her. Grrr. Bitch. Not only that but got showered in clay by a truck the other day too which has left its marks on the paint....starting to dread driving it despite it being so nice.
                                Last edited by Guest212; 15-11-2008, 03:50 PM.

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