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Holy smoken Tow bars - are these things Gold Plated?

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  • Holy smoken Tow bars - are these things Gold Plated?

    I just rang VW dealers for a price on a Tow Bar for my MkV GTi. $1,100.00 supply only or $1,500.00 installed. Are these things Gold plated?

    The wiring harness for the tow bar is $579 on its own...

    Any after market place I call doesn't do them... anyone found them cheaper anywhere? I can install my self, but $1,100.00 for a tow bar is crazy when I got a new one installed for $300 on my mazda 2 years ago.

    Any ideas ?

  • #2
    I heard a non VW sourced one will void your warranty, worth finding out.

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    • #3
      Its cos of the fancy wiring system in your golf. you cant just splice wires into it and it remain happy.

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      • #4
        Maybe you can just get the wiring harness & then get a $300 aftermarket towbar?

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        • #5
          It's so expensive cause it works with the cars ESP and braking electronics. OR that's what I've been told be two (maybe 3) dealers (2VW, 1 audi) when dad was looking at golfs and a4's


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          • #6
            Also it is worth checking out the maximum allowable towball weight before you commit your $$$.

            A lot of VAG vehicles have a very small rating, which means you can only tow very light things. It is no good having a 1200Kg towing rating if you can only have a towball weight of 50Kg. Most Oz trailers and vans run on a towball weight of 10%, which means 50Kg only allows for a trailer weighing a total of 500Kg. (I don't know what are the actual figures for a Golf, so these are only an example to give you the general idea).
            Last edited by WEDEL.1; 16-10-2008, 07:26 PM.
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            • #7
              Read this thread, then make up your own mind.....you pay your money, and you take your chances.....so how lucky do you feel???

              I can not understand why people but a quality product, then do everything as cheap as possible after the purchase.

              I paid $1400, got 3 year warranty , and the comfort of knowledge everything was done properly.




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              • #8
                wedel.1 could you post a pic of yours? thanks

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gregozedobe View Post
                  Also it is worth checking out the maximum allowable towball weight before you commit your $$$.

                  A lot of VAG vehicles have a very small rating, which means you can only tow very light things. It is no good having a 1200Kg towing rating if you can only have a towball weight of 50Kg. Most Oz trailers and vans run on a towball weight of 10%, which means 50Kg only allows for a trailer weighing a total of 500Kg. (I don't know what are the actual figures for a Golf, so these are only an example to give you the general idea).
                  Hans Tholstrop drove a Hyundai i30, 1.6L turbo diesel from Sydney to Melbourne towing a 600 KG (loaded) camper trailer. Fuel consuption was 5.66l/km @ an average speed of 86km/h. Refer "Caravan + RV" Spring 2008.

                  No mention of BALL WEIGHTS, which seem to be completely over-rated (or in VWs, under-rated).

                  I towed 500kg of sand & gravel in our Golf III GL 10 years ago (succesfully), no body talked about ball weight then.

                  I have never received anything OFFICAL from the Govt. Registration people explaining this new phenomena, and its repercustions.

                  Our Golf V will eventually tow a camper trailer (weight no more than 600kg. I don't expect to have any problems.

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                  • #10
                    It's a monopoly for sure. Nothing like a captive market to pump up the price!

                    Still, it is true the ESP traction control factors in the trailer when attached, and it does tell you what bulbs are out, but that's small consolation for the insane cost. At least it's a nicely built, removable tongue unit, but strangely from best bars in NZ. Until I read a few posts from fellow tow bar owners, I thought I'd been ripped off!

                    I can't see a problem towing normal things, especially in a manual.
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                    • #11
                      No clue for the VW, but the Subaru tow bar is the same sort of money as it adds (at least to the auto dad bought) a tranny cooler and who knows what else so you don't over heat your engine.

                      I suppose it's for worst case, really if you only ever plan on attaching a bike rack or something an aftermarket unit may be a better option (at least on the subie).

                      If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

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                      • #12
                        Towbar complete as it came. Chrome ball cap, rubber shin guard.



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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by WEDEL.1 View Post
                          I can not understand why people but a quality product, then do everything as cheap as possible after the purchase.
                          How true. I still can't understand it myself.

                          I've seen first hand what a dodgy install is like & I absolutely hate having to patch up someone else's major f$#k up.

                          This one ended up cutting through the taillight socket & filling up the boot with water & then onto rusting. Bloody lovely!

                          The choice is your's I say, but if it stuff's up, don't you dare go into a dealer & say my car's stuffed, can you fix it under warranty!

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                          • #14
                            As mentioned above, the factory bar kit works properly with the ABS, ASC &c, tells you of bulb-outs and so on, plus it apparently works in with your parking sensors (if fitted) by switching off the reverse sensors when a trailer is hooked up.

                            But the main reason is the multiplex style wiring that the Mk5 has. If you price a tow bar for a Polo (conventional wiring), you'll see it's about 1/3 of the price of the Golf bar.
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                            • #15
                              I have no problem paying good money for Quality product, my problem is paying ridiculous money for quality product. While I can accept that you will always pay a premium for factory item, no tow bar is worth that sort of Money, not when Haymen Reece can fit a quality bar to my old Mazda for $300, No bar is worth 5 times that price.

                              In saying that, complexity of the wiring system, I'm not stupid to risk not using the factory wiring, and will pay that so I can tow my Jetski, but that is one Ugly tow bar hanging off the back of My Golf, and think I'll fit it my self as I want as little bar cut out as possible.

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