Gear box broken . . . . Again

[kaneda]

After having the bolts in the peliquin diff let go and finding out that they originally had the wrong ones supplied I had the gear box case replaced and new ARP bolts installed so happy days......
Not quite because round 2 just started.
Most of the gear box oil jumped out the other day and on removal of the gear box discovered the lovely hole in the bell housing which is the tell tale sign of diff bolt troubles
Decided to split it this afternoon when I got home from work and this is what I found.
Hmmm whats all this shinny silver stuff


The hole from the inside of the case



Im sure something is missing



Oh wait there's the missing bits



oops



My spedo stopped working the other day and here I was thinking it was the sender unit (this is the gear the speedo runs off)



Do i put it back together or bin it and start again......




So next step ? not sure
+ hole in the case i can fix no problem
+ I need a new speedo gear and bit that goes to the sender unit
+ New bolts to hold the final drive to the diff
+ New clutch as the one in it is soaked in oil

Anyone know if I can buy the parts I need ?or where to get them from ? or Im almost in the mood just to send it to someone to sort it out so all I have to do is whack the box back in.

[Blitzen]

You could get the workshop who did the dodgy job in the first place to fund the repair while getting another workshop to fix it... Too bad he failed to send you a payment receipt after he repaired it the first time...

[grtuned]

Looks like you know what your doin!!! I'm sure you can source the parts required and put it back together yourself you would definitely save labour cost. But I fully understand where your coming from in regards to sending it out and saving you a headache rebuilding. Have you quoted what genuine parts would be???

[Sirocco20348]

Just out of curiosity, is the peloquin a **** lsd?
What caused the rapage on the speedo gear?
If you had the right bolts the 2nd times what happened to cause the bolts to sheer off like that?

Sorry for the 20 questions, i know bugger all about this part of the golf.

[Blitzen]

Just out of curiosity, is the peloquin a **** lsd?
What caused the rapage on the speedo gear?
If you had the right bolts the 2nd times what happened to cause the bolts to sheer off like that?

Poor workmanship... The Peloquin diff is a good product, but when it hasn't been installed properly, the above happens.
The damage to the speedo drive gear was caused by floating bits of metal, likely the heads of the bolts, meshing between the gears and tearing them apart.

[whiteVR6]

Poor workmanship... The Peloquin diff is a good product, but when it hasn't been installed properly, the above happens.
The damage to the speedo drive gear was caused by floating bits of metal, likely the heads of the bolts, meshing between the gears and tearing them apart.

Peloquins are known to shear bolts, do a search.

[kaneda]

Settle Ryan or Il shorten your chain

Yes the Diff are good and yes they are know to sheer bolts as the first lot were supplied with incorrect bolts and peloquin has addressed this issue .
What worries me tho is the first time this happened it had the old style bolt in it which were know to sheer off but then they were replaced with the ARP super dooper fantasticle bolts that were ment to out last time itself but again failed
Third times a charm maybe

[kaanage]

Just out of interest, how did you know which version of the 02J Peloquin to get?

VERY disappointing to hear that the ARP bolts sheared - were they under torqued?
With the super high tensile bolts, this can be worse than over torque since the bolt will almost certainly shear immediately if this happens.

[Sirocco20348]

Long winded rant and lend me your ears

This is a good read! Pretty much a mechanic was taken to court and shafted for the install of a peloquin lsd, even thou he was given the dodgy bolts lol... poor bastard.

[kaneda]

Long winded rant and lend me your ears

This is a good read! Pretty much a mechanic was taken to court and shafted for the install of a peloquin lsd, even thou he was given the dodgy bolts lol... poor bastard.

I don't really want to get into "whose to blame" rather what went wrong so it dosnt happen again and pass this info on BUT quick tale while we are on the topic.......
The first time it happened I sent it back to the shop that installed it the first time not because I was angry and wanted them to fix it for free , but they had experience in the issue and assured me they would sort it out , and they did.
So now that it has failed when I was told it was all sorted dose all the blame go back to them ? funny thing is they didnt even fix it the last time someone else did they just didn't tell me that so if I was cranky and didnt find out that they were just the middle man of course everything would be pointed at them .
Lesson learned
moving on
Anyone know where I can get replacement diff bolts ?

[Sirocco20348]

Well it sure as hell isnt your fault.... either the mechanice stuffed the install, or the replacement bolts are insufficient .. take your pick.
in the other thread they mention a lifetime warranty on the lsd? Follow it up with peloquin and see what they say!

[peedman]

You're making me ever so worried about the arp rod bolts i have in my car lol!

Have you thought about sending an email off to peloquin themselves? You never know they might take sympathy and reimburse you some costs in the best case scenario!

[kaanage]

Long winded rant and lend me your ears

This is a good read! Pretty much a mechanic was taken to court and shafted for the install of a peloquin lsd, even thou he was given the dodgy bolts lol... poor bastard.

And a MkIV Golf too! I wonder if it was a member of this forum.

[Sirocco20348]

Sooo just another n00b question from me... but what bolts do other lsd manufacturers use to secure them? quaife, wavetrac etc.

Or does each lsd come with propriertry boltz?

[kaanage]

VAG ones have the crown wheel rivetted to the differential and if the differential is replaced, then these are drilled out and then replaced with the bolts in question.

I am VERY interested in this thread as I have the same gearbox/differential and may be forced into a differential upgrade

Edit: And they all use ARP bolt kits these days