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  • Various BOV's on my MK4 GTI with Dyno results...

    The Mighty Car Mods MK4 GTI is back to hopefully put a few arguments to rest...

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    MK4 GTI | MK5 Sportline | 08 Audi S3

    Modify your ride with free DIY videos at www.mightycarmods.com

  • #2
    great story.

    One question for you. I've heard that the audi/vw tune relies on the recirculated air as part of its normal air/flow metering, and by venting to atmosphere would adversely affect the tune.

    i'm gathering that this test disproves that statement?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by gareth_oau View Post
      great story.

      One question for you. I've heard that the audi/vw tune relies on the recirculated air as part of its normal air/flow metering, and by venting to atmosphere would adversely affect the tune.

      i'm gathering that this test disproves that statement?
      This video is a summary which shows about 5% of the runs we did and 5% of the interviews I conducted with a variety of sources in research to make the video.

      GFB recommend 50% recirc for AUDI/VW but we tried 100% just for the hell of it with no problems or fault codes. We installed it into the GTI and drove with it every day for 2 weeks and then vag'd it and dyno'd it. No problems with performance or with codes. We had previously been running a 50% atmos valve on our GTI for the last 24 months.

      Some people have problems so I can't speak for them - I'm sure they'll speak up soon with their own findings but we had no problems at all.
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      • #4
        How can I learn more about installinga BOV in my mongoose?


        i like volkswagens
        My blog: http://garagefiftythree.blogspot.com.au/

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jarred View Post
          How can I learn more about installinga BOV in my mongoose?
          Bike? Exhaust? or furry animal?

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          • #6
            Another great episode.

            Two questions, what's the status of the car you guys imported?

            Secondly, any reason on the low dyno reading? I thought it would be higher than that given the mods done to the car.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by IanJ View Post
              Bike? Exhaust? or furry animal?
              the furry animal obviously. dah.


              i like volkswagens
              My blog: http://garagefiftythree.blogspot.com.au/

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              • #8
                I believe the furry kind come with their own blow off valve. It's an SP Hincter model

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by break View Post
                  Secondly, any reason on the low dyno reading? I thought it would be higher than that given the mods done to the car.
                  this the black girlfriends car? yeah i thought it'd have more than 106kw atw, considering they claim it does 0-100 in 6.5 seconds...

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                  • #10
                    So now the only thing to do is an expose on diesels.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by break View Post
                      Another great episode.

                      Two questions, what's the status of the car you guys imported?

                      Secondly, any reason on the low dyno reading? I thought it would be higher than that given the mods done to the car.
                      The car we imported is getting filmed but we have had quite a bit to do to it. The episode is almost done - just need a few final shots and then it will go live.

                      106KW was a little disappointing from a dyno point of view but we wanted to give actual dyno figures for comparison because so many people argue that BOVs increase/decrease final power.

                      The REVO tune has since been updated on the car with newly developed software as there was an issue with the 99/00 model GTIs and ours was running in a kind of semi-safe mode.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by blue_reality View Post
                        The REVO tune has since been updated on the car with newly developed software as there was an issue with the 99/00 model GTIs and ours was running in a kind of semi-safe mode.
                        i wonder if mine is doing that... (though i've got unitronic not revo)... power went down considerably some time back, i still seem to get the right amount of boost though so not sure. power seems to really die off anywhere over 4500rpm...
                        do you know more about this 'semi safe' mode? what was it limiting?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by McDub View Post
                          i wonder if mine is doing that... (though i've got unitronic not revo)... power went down considerably some time back, i still seem to get the right amount of boost though so not sure. power seems to really die off anywhere over 4500rpm...
                          do you know more about this 'semi safe' mode? what was it limiting?
                          This was a REVO specific issue. Long story really but took me a long time to get it sorted out as they had to actually make a new program for the 99/00 models.
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                          • #14
                            Could someone post this up on VWVortex if they're a member?
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                            • #15
                              Very strange.

                              Maybe its based on power for the car as i dyno'd my car with 50/50, forge 007p, tt, stock and the gfb mach 1 (recirc) and i have major varied results. My dyno results chip only was 104 from memory i think? then slowly jumped up to 128/132 without the k03s and now 144 almost with the k03s.

                              More so i found that actual boost 'held' more with the GFB Recirc than the others. The forge ones are good however dependant on your springs that your using (3 springs avail) that your boost would come in early or later or drop off earlier or drop off later and was pretty annoying as it wasnt linear all the way through ..

                              however GIAC chip and oettinger chip ive ran and both times i tried both out and found a 3-6kw which is very minimal but actual driving and PSI held was more noticable for me than anything personally.

                              my 2psi would be use a bailey's or a forge mach 1 recirc personally. if you want sound get an aem intake or similar as it shoots through the intake and echos.. id be happy if my car made no noise actually.

                              the only thing i have to pick on the mightmods mk4 is that the k&n pod filter sucking air! suprised how little power it makes for the mods that accompanies the chip.

                              awesome vid tho .. definitely !
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