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  • Will 30mm spacers work? Legal?

    Hey all.
    After some experienced opinions on wether this will work.
    I'm going to buy the Volk CV rims off Dom but the only problem with is that they aren't wide enough offset to fit over the stock vr6 front calipers. Using 30mm spacers has been suggested. I'm just wondering if this would effect steering or handling (i don't have any experience with them) and also would it be legal? I know in tas you can't have any tyre protruding from under the arches...
    Anyway, here is a pic of the rims for reference and any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

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  • #2
    Do spacers work? Yes, they can do.
    Are they legal? No.

    Will anyone really ever know? Probaly not.

    If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

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    • #3
      My understanding is that spacers put increased load on the bearings. I would not advise if this is the case to use such a large spacer...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by The_Hawk View Post
        Do spacers work? Yes, they can do.
        Are they legal? No.

        Will anyone really ever know? Probaly not.
        Unless you are involved in a fatality and your car is disassembled as evidence...

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        • #5
          2nd that one mate i fitted them at Porsche and they were supplied by Porsche with a Porsche part number, go figure and they were 50mm. I agree with the bearing load comment to though any in some cases , anything that alters offset can increase load on the bearings.
          Jmac
          Last edited by Jmac; 12-07-2008, 09:51 PM.
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          • #6
            id say it would only change the load on the bearing if you modified the final offset to be greater than the stock.

            what is the offset of the rims for them to need such a wide spacer? Will you end up with some crazy poke with spacers that wide?

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            • #7
              a "30mm" set of spacers are actually 2 x 15mm spacers as they increase the track by 30mm.

              If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

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              • #8
                Hmm, yeah im hearing that one about the offset. Still back at the legal again i know they are 'illegal' you can buy spacers for a Porsche from Porsche with part numbers the lot, crazy hey and i know i fitted plenty.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jmac View Post
                  Hmm, yeah im hearing that one about the offset. Still back at the legal again i know they are 'illegal' you can buy spacers for a Porsche from Porsche with part numbers the lot, crazy hey and i know i fitted plenty.
                  Jmac
                  And how many countries think that pod filters are legal, yet they are not in Australia?
                  Euro standards vs Aussie standards?

                  If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

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                  • #10
                    I tried googling them to find out offsets and i'm getting arount +30 for front 16x7s and +35 for rear 16x8s. But i'm not entirely sure. Would it say on the rim? I pm'd dom to find out if he knows.
                    As for the legality of them, unless they are actually poking out, a cop doing an inspection isn't going to pick up on them anyway. So it's just a case of what they don't know don't hurt them...
                    03 MkIV GTI - K04-001, APR 2.5" TBE/TIP/Software, Forge FMIC, GFB DV+, Powergasket+, Dark Tint, 17" Bora Sport, Bilstein shocks, Eibach springs, BMC CDA, Dieselgeek SS, Hella Celis, R32 Alloy Trim...
                    95 MkIII VR6 (sold)

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                    • #11
                      Yeah you are right mate, crazy hey!! Just off topic a little on legal - got stopped in a vehicle that had a BOV full atmospheric dump, whoosh bang. Copper says it was bad for the environment???????????????????????? No idea hey.
                      They really have got no idea
                      Anyway i say fit ya spacers mate
                      Jmac
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                      • #12
                        Well if the stock rims have et 35 and the new ones are et 30 +30 for spacers =60mm. That equals +25mm over stock, so 12.5mm wider at each wheel.

                        I just went out and had a look at the stock arch flares. I believe tyre poke is accurately measured by cops by looking vertically down from above the archs, and if they poke at the top they are illegal. Well from the looks of it there is about 50mm of room at each wheel from top of tyre out to top of arch. So should be ok... I'll get a pic tomoz to show what i mean. The tyres do poke at the front and rear of the arch stock but that is just cause the arch raps in towards centre of car...
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                        95 MkIII VR6 (sold)

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                        • #13
                          your calculations arent correct if the new wheels are wider than the originals.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tim View Post
                            your calculations arent correct if the new wheels are wider than the originals.
                            My wheels were on offset of 52. By adding a 25mm adapter it reduced them to 27. Offset works in a funny way and I have 10" wheels and they poked...

                            I'm going to increse the offset by reducing the adapters so as to bring the wheels back inside the arches.

                            Spacers are legal as long as they bolt to the hub. Essentially they then become part of the hub and not the wheel. If they just float in between they have the potential to shear off the bolts and are illegal because they float.

                            They still require to be engineered to make them legal but it can be done easily as long as the engineer who inspects them believes they do no add excesive force to the rest of your suspension including the bearings.
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                            • #15
                              The spacer has to be welded to the hub itself, not just bolted on to be legal.

                              Or best of all, get new hubs made up that are wider than stock, then the cops wont pick it at all!
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