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Black VR6: Whats it worth?

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    Black VR6: Whats it worth?

    Looking at a 1997 VR6. It's in beautiful original condition:

    (Apparently) Genuine VW leather
    187xxxkms
    No rust whatsoever
    Logbook servicing - coilpack just been done
    Hasn't had anything done to it so in stock condition but very well looked after.
    All the windows work well
    Black Magic original paintjob

    Issues are:
    Heater Core is broken!!
    Drivers seat wont click in unless you get off the seat (common in the vr6s ive seen)
    Front windscreen lower seal is damaged (common again?)
    Stereo system (had the original six cd stacker) doesnt work
    Timing chain hasn't been done yet (but no rattles when we took it for a run)
    Steering wheel/ gear knob quite worn
    Back tyres need to be done
    Top of back bumper has been resprayed

    Will add other stuff if i think of it. Any ideas one what itd be worth?? How much longer until id need to do the timing chain/ clutch??

    Thanks guys.
    Current: 2007 Black Magic GTI - APR Stage 2, Carbonio intake, APR downpipe and catback exhaust, RNS510, Bi-Xenons, Custom Red Leather Interior, Tow Bar, Racks and Parking Sensors
    Previous: Absolute Red 2000 S3 8L - Stage 1 Custom Code
    Previous: 1997 Black Magic VR6 - CX Racings, BFI Stealthlines, Chipped ECU, Genie Extractors, Thule 404s, Fairing, Suitcase delete with hotdog.
    Tags: vr6, wtb
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    Black VR6: Whats it worth?

    Timing chain, if it hasn't been done should be soon I'd guess. That with a clutch will be 2k~ from a shop.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by HaydEn View Post
      Timing chain, if it hasn't been done should be soon I'd guess. That with a clutch will be 2k~ from a shop.
      How much longer would I get out of it? He's an older bloke and has had it for 7 years (second owner) and doesnt seem like he'd flogs it around. Feels solid thats for sure. For the clutch that is*
      Last edited by mb1907953; 08-11-2012, 10:25 PM.
      Current: 2007 Black Magic GTI - APR Stage 2, Carbonio intake, APR downpipe and catback exhaust, RNS510, Bi-Xenons, Custom Red Leather Interior, Tow Bar, Racks and Parking Sensors
      Previous: Absolute Red 2000 S3 8L - Stage 1 Custom Code
      Previous: 1997 Black Magic VR6 - CX Racings, BFI Stealthlines, Chipped ECU, Genie Extractors, Thule 404s, Fairing, Suitcase delete with hotdog.

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      • #4
        Timing chain needs to be done every 100,000km I believe. Heater core is a $1k job at a shop.

        The other bits are small. Definately take it for a mechanical inspection before buying.

        Without seeing it, I'd say $4.5k - You have about $3k worth of maint jobs waiting for you, should you purchase.

        Also, since you're new its worth saying this: VR6's are expensive cars to maintain. Ensure you have an adequate budget to keep it running. My services regularly cost me $600+ and have done so for years now. Caveat Emptor!
        1996 Golf VR6 Colour Concept Green

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        • #5
          Black VR6: Whats it worth?

          Originally posted by mb1907953 View Post
          How much longer would I get out of it? He's an older bloke and has had it for 7 years (second owner) and doesnt seem like he'd flogs it around. Feels solid thats for sure. For the clutch that is*
          It's extremely hard to say. If there is zero noise, one could assume you have a while yet. Vw claim that the chains will out last the engine. But as everyone owner knows this is not the case.

          If it has been properly maintained and regularly serviced, the chains can last a long time.

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          • #6
            Yeh it didn't have any rattles at all so its possible I guess that it was done by the owner before the seller. Yeh 4.5k sounds about right to me. Although because its in such good nic in terms of originality might fetch him 5k. He's asking 8k at the moment though....

            I am well aware of the costs of maintaining the car but at the same time would be keen to do a bit of the work myself. I've been won over by the v6... The 4cylinders just don't match up haha.

            Any ideas on how long the clutches last?
            Current: 2007 Black Magic GTI - APR Stage 2, Carbonio intake, APR downpipe and catback exhaust, RNS510, Bi-Xenons, Custom Red Leather Interior, Tow Bar, Racks and Parking Sensors
            Previous: Absolute Red 2000 S3 8L - Stage 1 Custom Code
            Previous: 1997 Black Magic VR6 - CX Racings, BFI Stealthlines, Chipped ECU, Genie Extractors, Thule 404s, Fairing, Suitcase delete with hotdog.

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            • #7
              He will never get 8k. Ever. I wouldnt even get 8k for mine and I've got a limited edition model with all the fruit!

              My clutch has lasted the entire time I've had the car, which is near on 6 years(!), but I nanny the thing.
              1996 Golf VR6 Colour Concept Green

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              • #8
                Agreed. Oh well, I told him to give me a ring if he decides to come down on price. Very nice car simply because it hasn't been molested at all. Good to know about the clutch.

                Looking at a 94 tomorrow with black audi rs4 rims. Should be a bit of fun. Asking 6k but has had timing belt, heater core etcetc done and appears to be in good cond.
                Current: 2007 Black Magic GTI - APR Stage 2, Carbonio intake, APR downpipe and catback exhaust, RNS510, Bi-Xenons, Custom Red Leather Interior, Tow Bar, Racks and Parking Sensors
                Previous: Absolute Red 2000 S3 8L - Stage 1 Custom Code
                Previous: 1997 Black Magic VR6 - CX Racings, BFI Stealthlines, Chipped ECU, Genie Extractors, Thule 404s, Fairing, Suitcase delete with hotdog.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mb1907953 View Post
                  Agreed. Oh well, I told him to give me a ring if he decides to come down on price. Very nice car simply because it hasn't been molested at all. Good to know about the clutch.

                  Looking at a 94 tomorrow with black audi rs4 rims. Should be a bit of fun. Asking 6k but has had timing belt, heater core etcetc done and appears to be in good cond.

                  not this one is it?

                  Moving on up - new vr6 - VWWatercooled Australia
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                  Covers all Mk3 (Type 1H) Golf &amp; Vento models.

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                  • #10
                    it is... Is there a problem I should know about?
                    Current: 2007 Black Magic GTI - APR Stage 2, Carbonio intake, APR downpipe and catback exhaust, RNS510, Bi-Xenons, Custom Red Leather Interior, Tow Bar, Racks and Parking Sensors
                    Previous: Absolute Red 2000 S3 8L - Stage 1 Custom Code
                    Previous: 1997 Black Magic VR6 - CX Racings, BFI Stealthlines, Chipped ECU, Genie Extractors, Thule 404s, Fairing, Suitcase delete with hotdog.

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                    • #11
                      nope, just sayin'

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                      • #12
                        Although I would argue putting 18s on a mk3 is a big no no. Still, wheels are easily changed and those seats look nice!
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                        • #13
                          Great car but I dunno. I wasn't feeling it or something haha. 18s worked fine but I think it comes with the 15s as well. Still looking for the right one! If anyones interested in selling let me know!
                          Current: 2007 Black Magic GTI - APR Stage 2, Carbonio intake, APR downpipe and catback exhaust, RNS510, Bi-Xenons, Custom Red Leather Interior, Tow Bar, Racks and Parking Sensors
                          Previous: Absolute Red 2000 S3 8L - Stage 1 Custom Code
                          Previous: 1997 Black Magic VR6 - CX Racings, BFI Stealthlines, Chipped ECU, Genie Extractors, Thule 404s, Fairing, Suitcase delete with hotdog.

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                          • #14
                            I know you've decided not buy this car But "Whats it worth" is a hard Question to answer.
                            Some people are dreaming for what they want for there VR6 these days .
                            Your best to get in contact with a mechanic preferably- VW type of guy- take the next vr6 to them.


                            It Took me 7 months to find mine and I got it for $4,500 leather manual 96.
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                            @vitsvw @vdubin_

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                            • #15
                              In what respect? As in i'm dreaming of what I want to buy or what people are asking? The 1997 Black one is beautiful but as everyone has said, 8k is far too dear for what it is.

                              Would you still recommend taking it to a mechanic and have him suggest a price to the owner etc?

                              How many Ks did yours have and what nic was it in?

                              cheers!
                              Current: 2007 Black Magic GTI - APR Stage 2, Carbonio intake, APR downpipe and catback exhaust, RNS510, Bi-Xenons, Custom Red Leather Interior, Tow Bar, Racks and Parking Sensors
                              Previous: Absolute Red 2000 S3 8L - Stage 1 Custom Code
                              Previous: 1997 Black Magic VR6 - CX Racings, BFI Stealthlines, Chipped ECU, Genie Extractors, Thule 404s, Fairing, Suitcase delete with hotdog.

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