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  • Legal Issues & Stretching Tyres

    Couple of questions here, which arised from a convo with the old man...

    Just wondering if there are any legal issues with deep, wide rims that have a bit of 'poke' from the fender/body?

    Also, stretching tyres? Anyone wanna fill me in on some of the reasoning behind it, it's benefits, and how to do it?

    And finally, adding dish to old rims. I read somewhere that it is possible to widen an old set of rims (I'm thinking MK3 steelies), if so what's the ballpark figure price I'll be looking at, and if you are a Melbournian, recommend me a place to have it done? Volkspower?

    Cheers,
    Now owns a golf. Stoked.

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    Im not a 100% but i think if the wheel is comming past the fender it may be a defect. You would probably have to get the guards flaired.

    NOt sure bout the idea of widening wheels
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    • #3
      Widen steelies are do able, all they do is get a new outer rim and weld in the centre part of the rim at your desired off set. I'm pretty sure that's how it works anyways, in short at least. Doubt Volkspower would do it tho. Probably have to got to a wheel shop, that would fix gutter rash etc,. should be able to do it.

      I always thought that tyre stretch was just a look thing mainly


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      • #4
        Originally posted by cameo View Post
        Couple of questions here, which arised from a convo with the old man...

        Just wondering if there are any legal issues with deep, wide rims that have a bit of 'poke' from the fender/body?

        Also, stretching tyres? Anyone wanna fill me in on some of the reasoning behind it, it's benefits, and how to do it?

        And finally, adding dish to old rims. I read somewhere that it is possible to widen an old set of rims (I'm thinking MK3 steelies), if so what's the ballpark figure price I'll be looking at, and if you are a Melbournian, recommend me a place to have it done? Volkspower?

        Cheers,

        As for widen steelies it known as banding... What i recomend u do is have new hoops put onto the existing centers... We had some done in 13's and 15's and its sweet...

        All u need is the standard wheels take them to a wheel builder, not your local trye joint bcuz he sends off and make more money... The wheel builder machines off your old hoop and welds back on a new wider hoop...

        U need to consider offset... If u want it done PM and ill give a phone number... Costs around $120 per wheel all done

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        • #5
          stretching the tyres does make the side walls of the tyre stiffer, giving you more traction/less tyre roll, but it also makes them harder. It also looks awesome but it is easier to get gutter rash.

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          • #6
            Stretching tyres will reduce tyre wall flex, but too much stretch can cause issues with the tyre bead popping off the rim :-\ It is also illegal as your supposed to keep your tyres and rims close to the standard sizes. Everything is illegal these days

            I love my stretch, i reckon it looks bloody awsome if done right, nothing worse than muffin tops :-X

            Wheels out the guards is also illegal as mentioned before, but i reckon **** offset wheels that sit 30mm inside the guards should be illegal as it just looks soooooooooooooooo bad and reduces the cars balance!
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            • #7
              seriously. wide as u want, low as u want, as much stretch as u want.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by 1DUB2C View Post
                seriously. wide as u want, low as u want, as much stretch as u want.
                Haha Ray's a dubber at heart

                But yeah, everyone's pretty spot on from what I know too.

                With stretched tyres, you only run the risk of the tyre popping out if you don't run them properly. By this, I mean under-inflating, over-inflating and changing them when they wear out. Remember that drifters use stretched tyres to reduce sidewall flex, and I'm sure you can appreciate how much stress these tyres get, yet they stay on the rim until wearing out completely.
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                • #9
                  Alrighty, I might have to keep it at a minial poke until/if I get my fenders rolled...

                  And ugh, what's offset?
                  Now owns a golf. Stoked.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cameo View Post
                    Alrighty, I might have to keep it at a minial poke until/if I get my fenders rolled...

                    And ugh, what's offset?
                    The distance between the hub face and the edge of the rim... Know as ET or sometimes back space... Can be positive or negative

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Water Boy View Post
                      As for widen steelies it known as banding... What i recomend u do is have new hoops put onto the existing centers... We had some done in 13's and 15's and its sweet...

                      All u need is the standard wheels take them to a wheel builder, not your local trye joint bcuz he sends off and make more money... The wheel builder machines off your old hoop and welds back on a new wider hoop...

                      U need to consider offset... If u want it done PM and ill give a phone number... Costs around $120 per wheel all done
                      I had no idea it's a custom job... I have alway wondered which company sells it.. Surely opened up my mind, especially with rayray's Crazy wheel projects now days, the wheel crazy is infectious... For future references, anyone know places in sydney that does that ?

                      OH the issue of strech tyre.. everything is illegal but for anything, it improves the performance from what I know.
                      Last edited by Soundofav6; 13-11-2007, 06:01 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Soundofav6 View Post
                        I had no idea it's a custom job... I have alway wondered which company sells it.. Surely opened up my mind, especially with rayray's Crazy wheel projects now days, the wheel crazy is infectious... For future references, anyone know places in sydney that does that ?

                        OH the issue of strech tyre.. everything is illegal but for anything, it improves the performance from what I know.
                        Yeah mate most wheel builders do em for hot rods, race cars and drag cars... U just think hwo many VL turz run widen steelies... A lot and some ones gota do it

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bboyskidz View Post
                          stretching the tyres does make the side walls of the tyre stiffer, giving you more traction/less tyre roll, but it also makes them harder. It also looks awesome but it is easier to get gutter rash.
                          I know I'm being a bit of a wet blanket here, but stretching tyres might improve performance by making the sidewalls stiffer, but it also takes away the natural suspension properties of the tyre. I'm reminded of a mate who managed to pop a 17 inch tyre driving along Parramatta Rd. I don't really see all that much difference between my stocker 15's and the 17's with smaller sidewall. However, I could be wrong

                          But, if uncompromising performance is what you're after, I'm sure tyre stretching is the way to go
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Water Boy View Post
                            Yeah mate most wheel builders do em for hot rods, race cars and drag cars... U just think hwo many VL turz run widen steelies... A lot and some ones gota do it
                            I feel like fireworks are going off in my head, thats Makes so much sense.

                            Excuse for going off topic for a second....to make those stellies with mirror finish, do they just polish the hell of it is there another alternative ?

                            Thanks for starting the post cameo.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Soundofav6 View Post
                              I feel like fireworks are going off in my head, thats Makes so much sense.

                              Excuse for going off topic for a second....to make those stellies with mirror finish, do they just polish the hell of it is there another alternative ?

                              Thanks for starting the post cameo.
                              Polish or chrome... What ever floates ya boat

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