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    Can some one explain to me why my k&n filter has a weird shape, does it matter? What did I do wrong this time?


  • #2
    just the design, nothing will go wrong except maybe some heat soak
    Passat 1.8T K04 | Audi A3 1.8T | Bora 4Motion

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    • #3
      ok,,lesson no 3 -- it causes a vortex so you get better airflow..i think! haha

      keep it up soundofav6!!! you will get there soon!!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by gpk_gti View Post
        ok,,lesson no 3 -- it causes a vortex so you get better airflow..i think! haha

        keep it up soundofav6!!! you will get there soon!!!
        Vortex hey.. jet engine came to mind. I should bolt a motor there to spin the filter like a jet engine.

        Originally posted by 1DUB2C View Post
        just the design, nothing will go wrong except maybe some heat soak
        I trust my mentor, I don't need heat shield as it is redundant becasue I am not tuboed. Hey dude I think I spoted your car last friday, about 8:30 george st in the city.

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        • #5
          I would put in a heat shield, the colder the air that goes into your engine the better the power
          76 MkI 3 door - daily drive/project - 1.8 5speed
          76 MkI 3 door swallowtail - 16v track car
          76 MkI 3 door "long term" project

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Soundofav6 View Post
            Vortex hey.. jet engine came to mind. I should bolt a motor there to spin the filter like a jet engine.



            I trust my mentor, I don't need heat shield as it is redundant becasue I am not tuboed. Hey dude I think I spoted your car last friday, about 8:30 george st in the city.
            you saw my car friday at george st? wasnt me, prob my twin.
            Passat 1.8T K04 | Audi A3 1.8T | Bora 4Motion

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            • #7
              Put a head shield, after a good fang mine was hot enough to burn me!!!

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              • #8
                wasnt in town friday night,im a family man with no need to hang around like a old tart hahaha

                I was having a few single malts at my mates place!!!

                heat shield?? bahhhhhhh I never had one and I still won the dyno shoot out in melb...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Soundofav6 View Post
                  I trust my mentor, I don't need heat shield as it is redundant becasue I am not tuboed.
                  Hi Soundofav6,

                  That's not strictly true, keeping intake air temperature to a minimum is beneficial for both turbo and naturally aspirated engines.

                  Cooler air is more dense than warmer air and therefore facilitates more complete combustion of fuel thereby producing more power. Ever notice your car performs better on a cold night than it does on a hot day?

                  Cheers

                  George
                  06 Jetta 2.0TFSI Killed by a Lexus!
                  09 Eos 2.0TSI DSG Loved this car but has now gone to a new home!!
                  14 EOS 2.0 TSI has arrived!

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                  • #10
                    the heat shield that is usually supplied with these k&n kits are not the best quality and the gains are negligable.the heat shield that works is the one that is airtight from the motor side,right?? the dodgy one only works when the car is stationary and once its moving,,cooler air enters the engine bay.

                    I wouldnt waste my money ,unless you are going for every single KW of power.

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                    • #11
                      Depends where it sits in relation to the engine, the one in my mk2 isn't all that close to the engine so won't cop direct heat, but if it is up snug to the engine it will be coping a great deal and could greatly reduce its life expectancy if not destroy it.
                      76 MkI 3 door - daily drive/project - 1.8 5speed
                      76 MkI 3 door swallowtail - 16v track car
                      76 MkI 3 door "long term" project

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                      • #12
                        I had my k&n pod on my vr6 from about 40000k-110000k.not a prob with the motor...

                        the mk3 has a cut out on the inside of the engine bay where the airbox sat and is directly behind the headlight,so when its moving there should be enough cold air entering.I suppose he could add some ducting from the bottom directly to it???

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by gpk_gti View Post
                          I wouldnt waste my money ,unless you are going for every single KW of power.
                          True, every KW costs dollars and the cost per KW increases exponentially....the more KW you have, the more each extra KW costs.
                          I was just pointing out that it is a fallacy that only turbo engines perform better with cool intake air.

                          Cheers

                          George
                          06 Jetta 2.0TFSI Killed by a Lexus!
                          09 Eos 2.0TSI DSG Loved this car but has now gone to a new home!!
                          14 EOS 2.0 TSI has arrived!

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                          • #14
                            Dude do yourself a favour go to supercheap and get a fulisik half cut shield they do the trick for around $15 I think I bought it!

                            It does the trick if you also do the charcoal cannister mod that brings in a little more air into the equation which is also good. Oh and Matt is right the more colder air that goes through the better response your engine will have!

                            Thats why they call it a "Cold" air intake not hot!
                            I'm soo euro even my missus is shaved...

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                            • #15
                              nahh,,,,I do realise NA cars need cooler air as well as Turbo/SC cars..not as badly tho

                              Its funny though,,My vr6 would cain alot of other vr6's around and many other better cars.I did race at oran once a guy that had a much better set up CAI/superCHIP and I whipped him as well,but I did thrash the hell out of my vr6 from the day I bought it.So the gains from a heat shielded and non heat shielded cai is negligable imo.
                              Last edited by Guest; 08-08-2007, 05:09 PM.

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