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    I should start with my problem. I have an oil leak which dropping on the garage floor.

    Worst case senario head gasket leak which means big $$, money I am prepared to spend. My biggest concern is transportation, with my relos coming from overseas staying at my place for a few weeks with out A car it would be shameful !!

    Renting a car would probably be my last option. So with out breaking the bank I am seriously thinking of replacing my vr6 engine something reliable, plug and play, so I can get by for now. I am thinking probably a more readily avaliable engine like 2.0 8v for now and have my engine on stand.

    My justification is " I rather lose the money spent on a 2.0L than not knowing what to so with a second vr6 engine after mine is complete, obviously a vr6 engine would cost more in the begining. "

    If you follow my logics, what problem should/ will I be expecting for a vr6 into 2.0 convertion. ??
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  • #2
    find the source of your oil leak before you think so far ahead into the future. It might just be an oil cooler gasket or something. If its leaking when the engine is off i dont think it will be coming from the head.

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    • #3
      I'd be hunting down the leak first...

      Is the loom even compatible with a 2.Slow?


      Have you considered another whole car? A whole GL/CL or Mk1/Mk2 as an interim measure? BUy it, drive it for a few months while you sort out your car (steal any good bits you want while you have it) then sell it on. If you manage to get the right car you could very well break even at the end of the little endevour (Although it does mean more cash upfront)

      If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

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      • #4
        Thanks for the comfort .... I Really should clean up the mess, oil is leaking from the top for sure. I degreased it wiped it clean and saw oil streaks after running.

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        • #5
          Go to the auctions, they have reasonable cars that end up going for 1-2k with rego that run, I'd be getting something cheap and short term from there to satisfy the gap in the transport issue.
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          • #6
            Have u got oil in ur coolant? Car running badly? I doubt it would be head gasket but finding the exact cause would be ur best bet.

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            • #7
              a huge problem with the 8v is rocker cover gaskets. i have no idea about vr6s but i suppose oil would leak out of that top.. you'd slap yourself with a 2.0 8v!! can you imagine 110 -10-yr-old horses as compared with 170?
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              • #8
                Thanks for the replies.
                I know I should really find out the exact problem first. I never really considered a second car for now, that may not be a bad idea for a few months, since I may even be able to sale it the same price. Just coming up with the lum sum would be a challenge.

                I am considering a 2.0 replacement for now is that, few hundred for the engine comparing to a second car for $2000 + tax up and runnign.

                hawk- not sure if the loom is same. one reason I started this thread, gearing is another concern.

                PEdro, I am considering head gasket in the worst case senario. My car doesn't idle properly, otherwise it is running fine.

                jayjay- I wouldnt mind the temperary lack in power, I can totally live with 8v power for now.

                joe- thanks for the pic. I know for fact I have to replace rocket. Great to get a visual.

                besides all that, last engine oil top up 2 weeks ago I DID "accidentally" pour in more, now thinking back maybe simply "overflowing" via original rocket leak.

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                • #9
                  ay man keep your head up, you'll power through it i'm sure theres nothing really that wrong with your engine you dont want an 8v trust me
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                  • #10
                    HAHAHA!
                    You have no idea how much modification is involved with a 2.0L swap...

                    First of all, you'll need to replace engine, loom, exhaust etc.... I'd put an estimate on that of around $1500, IF you do the work yourself...so that'd be about 25-30hrs, imagine the cost if there was labour!

                    Then, you'll have to change gearboxes! Two options here, standard 8v box, but then you have to change to rod shift, and cable clutch, and maybe a new pedal box, then there's the clutch too. That option would be about $1000. Or find a rare 4 cyl bellhousing 02A gearbox, that can use cable shift and hydro clutch, maybe not a $1000 for that option, but the clutch might cost ya!

                    So, there you have it! The cash you'd spend on your crazy idea of doing this swap will infact rebuild your whole vr6 back to near factory new condition!!! And maybe your gearbox too!

                    This is a lesson to all that you should never meddle with things (trust me, i know) and to get informed before you make decisions, because people will laugh at you. At the moment, I'm pissing myself with the idiocy of this thread...

                    That is all...

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                    • #11
                      I would say pick up an old civic or corolla as cheap as you like, and use that for a few months while you fix your VR6. Engine swap doesn't seem like a good idea. And let's be honest, it'll be hard to find a cheap, reliable, decent condition golf at very short notice.

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                      • #12
                        Louis mate I'll be glad to give you a hand with swapping over gaskets and stuff. Although I'm no mechanic or anywhere near, I had to do this to my car so I know how it comes apart and stuff now my suggestion would be to take it to someone like seb who isn't too far from you and ask him to DIAGNOSE your problem. Then, you can decide what to do from there..

                        for example if he says it's a rocker cover gasket leak, then that's a (b!tch, but a) simple job to replace. If it's something more serious, like a head-gasket, then you could leave it with someone like Seb and then look into auctions or cheaper cars just as a temporary while you get your car fixed.

                        EDIT: I'm sure there'll be many people willing to help you out mate.
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                        • #13
                          Thanks mickey.. I will start by degreasing around the engine block, than I can see where it is actually leaking.

                          Seems like a replacement engine for now may not work..

                          Apart from leaking oil from the gaskets what problems should I expect ?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by golf3 View Post

                            This is a lesson to all that you should never meddle with things (trust me, i know) and to get informed before you make decisions, because people will laugh at you. At the moment, I'm pissing myself with the idiocy of this thread...

                            That is all...
                            This thread is merely a "point me to right direction" and open up my options. Hope you drown in your own a own amusement.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Soundofav6 View Post
                              Apart from leaking oil from the gaskets what problems should I expect ?
                              Well for starters you'll be needing to top the oil up with whatever it leaks out....and then from there I'm no help to you
                              EDIT: Except...I would just say check for any abnormalities, eg rise in oil or coolant temperature, etc etc etc. Anything abnormal could be part of your problem.
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