mk2 16V vin code decoding / authenticity

[atomicspacepuppy]

hey ,any mk2ers out there that help verify whether a 88 16V is the genuine deal? The engine is a genuine KR but I am trying to find out if the car was built as a 16V or a 8V with transplant.
I have NO option codes to go by only a VIN and serial number and every decoder fails to recognise the fifth letter engine code Z ...full VIN is WVWZZZ19ZJW432631
cheers simon

[h100vw]

hey ,any mk2ers out there that help verify whether a 88 16V is the genuine deal? The engine is a genuine KR but I am trying to find out if the car was built as a 16V or a 8V with transplant.
I have NO option codes to go by only a VIN and serial number and every decoder fails to recognise the fifth letter engine code Z ...full VIN is WVWZZZ19ZJW432631
cheers simon

That Z is a space filler I am pretty sure.

Where's this 16V, there's lots of subtle differences between an 8 and 16V GTI. Most rip offs wouldn't go to the trouble of doing everything.

All RHD 16Vs I have seen in the UK have sunroofs, a 16V badge on the glovebox, bee sting aerial, 140mph speedo, tinted windows, nearly all had 256mm front brakes. Plus a heap of other things.

Gavin

[atomicspacepuppy]

Hi Gavin,
thx for all this , the car is in QLD, formally NSW where it was imported from UK, oak green, 88 two door and has sunroof, glovebox badge, bee sting aerial, 140 MPH speedo ( but my 8V has this and the sunroof !) and I agree with your logic , good point. Unsure about the tint and I didn't know about the 256 mm discs so thats a good point and very helpful, thx mate. It also has the 15 inch BBS wheels and I know for a fact apart from 16V they were only on the really late run out 8V's so I think its the real deal ???cheers simon

[f320kty]

I'm pretty sure all 16v 2 door have electric windows also ,so if the door trims doesn't have blanking plugs where winders used to be that's a good sign , I'm pretty sure central locking was standard also on 16v , aerial, speedo , glovebox badge already mentioned , is the sticker in the boot about 4 inch square white paper (it will have vin no and eng no in it) will confirm all your queries

All UK mk2 GTI have sunroofs. , all big door window (88 on) 16v have 256mm front brakes and bigger input spline on clutch (not that you can see that) .

[f320kty]

IN boot , and service book , but if u have that it will be a miracle

[ryana89]

Just to add, 8000 rpm tacho too on 16v's.
(7000 on 8v)

[atomicspacepuppy]

Hey ryana89 Thx for this - another spec I wasntnt aware off .... I'll check it

[atomicspacepuppy]

Hi f320kty , I have this in the boot and manual of my 8v but unfortunately both missing in the 16v I'm looking at , re the windows and locking great Thx I'll check it out . very much appreciated .

[f320kty]

Have you tried the be museum website ? I know you can get a certificate saying what your car is and when it was built etc . Not sure if it says model specifics

[f320kty]

Try this page
Stiftung AutoMuseum Volkswagen: Certificates and data sheets

[Munch]

Manufacturer:	Volkswagen AG
Manufacturer address:	Berliner Ring 2
	Wolfsburg/Hannover
Make:	Volkswagen
Model:	Golf II
Check digit:	Z
Model year:	1988
Plant code:	Germany
Sequential number:	432631

[Munch]

It sounds as if the car was an import?

If from the UK you can do an HPi check which may elaborate more, particularly if involved in any serious crashes (V23 Marker)

[Munch]

B83 = Type approval Bahrain

EV

82

112

1.80

4

01/84 - 07/87

GOLF

[ozgti]

Ev is an 8v isn't it. My 84 is an ev...didn't think they made evs after 84

[ozgti]

Also, I have upgraded my 8v one piece legs to 16v 2 piece with Corrado brakes, so you can't really go off that. If it's an import, then all matter of abortion work could have happened to it. My small bumper had a big bumper kit on it, bee sting Antenna, manual windows. But I know of some that were there with late doors on early cars, and 16v conversions. So unfortunately, the only way to find out is via the vin. From memory, you can go to eurocarparts.co.uk and input the vin. This should come up with the details of the car. If you have the old rego, even better.