Golf GTI Mk2

[aliasmk2]

I`ll take a pic of the two kinds of heads Ian

There are 3 kinds. The p*ss weak aussie ones with the tiny valves, the larger head ones as found on US cars and digi Mk2s in the UK and the big manly Kjet valves as found on the first (and best) Mk2s.

ECU is definately different too.

If you plug a pommie ecu into a standard aussie RV engine, it overfuels. If you put it into a worked motor with a big valve head and good downpipe, you are flying.

The ECU is not any different in any to any other all over the world

I really thought that we were getting over all of this stupid & unfounded immature rubbish that people go on about with these cars.
There have recently been posts on this thread that basically state that the Australian cars have a hell of a lot offer that a UK car simply cannot & this is by an Australian person who lives in the UK, who more or less stated that we have a really good car here so make the most out of it
Most of the UK cars are just piles of rust these days, unless you want to pay serious money
In relation to Kjet & digi, well if your tool who drives around playing boy racer at the traffic lights then you will like Kjet, but at the end of the day digi is a way better package for reliability & top end driving as on a HWY or even up hills
I can say this as I drove a mk1 for years with an EV engine running Kjet in it, that was installed by Wolfsburg Motors in St Peters. So it did run to its full potential, so therefore or I am in a position to compare

[Golf Loon]

The ECU is not any different in any to any other all over the world

I really thought that we were getting over all of this stupid & unfounded immature rubbish that people go on about with these cars.
There have recently been posts on this thread that basically state that the Australian cars have a hell of a lot offer that a UK car simply cannot & this is by an Australian person who lives in the UK, who more or less stated that we have a really good car here so make the most out of it
Most of the UK cars are just piles of rust these days, unless you want to pay serious money
In relation to Kjet & digi, well if your tool who drives around playing boy racer at the traffic lights then you will like Kjet, but at the end of the day digi is a way better package for reliability & top end driving as on a HWY or even up hills
I can say this as I drove a mk1 for years with an EV engine running Kjet in it, that was installed by Wolfsburg Motors in St Peters. So it did run to its full potential, so therefore or I am in a position to compare

This is wrong is so many ways that I`m not even going to waste my time commenting.

Speechless.

[aliasmk2]

This is wrong is so many ways that I`m not even going to waste my time commenting.

Speechless.

Me too & I'm not even a mechanic

"So censor me"

[static1800]

So does this mean that an RV head has big valves?

It has normal valves in comparison to some US engines, the Euro engines could be different again though as some have upto 115hp where as the RV has 100, bigger valves, no cat and the dual pipe downpipe would equate for this.

[aliasmk2]

Thanks mate, sounds like clear info there
I agree that the D/P & cat would make up the difference, it seems logical.

[static1800]

I've got the dual downpipe and a high flow cat and I don't think it has made that much of an increase. It has picked up the mid range as the engine can breath a bit better.

[WABIT]

The ECU is not any different in any to any other all over the world

I really thought that we were getting over all of this stupid & unfounded immature rubbish that people go on about with these cars.
There have recently been posts on this thread that basically state that the Australian cars have a hell of a lot offer that a UK car simply cannot & this is by an Australian person who lives in the UK, who more or less stated that we have a really good car here so make the most out of it
Most of the UK cars are just piles of rust these days, unless you want to pay serious money
In relation to Kjet & digi, well if your tool who drives around playing boy racer at the traffic lights then you will like Kjet, but at the end of the day digi is a way better package for reliability & top end driving as on a HWY or even up hills
I can say this as I drove a mk1 for years with an EV engine running Kjet in it, that was installed by Wolfsburg Motors in St Peters. So it did run to its full potential, so therefore or I am in a position to compare

umm, if the computers are all the same world wide, how will they work with heads that need more air/fuel compared to small valve ones? do they just use the universal computer for all head types?

dom

[GOLFBALLS]

Thanks mate, sounds like clear info there
I agree that the D/P & cat would make up the difference, it seems logical.

Aliasmk2, How was that any clearer than the info the rest of us posted??? He's basically saying what we all said too, and you seem to agree with him and not Loon who's also had years of experience!!
You said you're not a mechanic but you don't need to tell anyone that because it's obvious you dont know what you're on about.
Yes, the RV is quite adequate and nice to drive - i drive mine everyday - but if its a question of power (which it originally was) then the EV has more.
I just dont understand why you go all psycho over this topic!!?? You claim we can't back our points up, but we clearly did, and you still haven't backed your argument with facts either...

[aliasmk2]

umm, if the computers are all the same world wide, how will they work with heads that need more air/fuel compared to small valve ones? do they just use the universal computer for all head types?

dom

Well after hearing so much crap about how bad these cars are, I tried to find out what the difference is with the ECU
I found that the part number is the same all over the world except for the last 1 or 2 letters, which seem to change randomly all over the world.
There are posts in this thread & in other earlier threads on this forum that explain how the ECU will set itself in response to the conditions that it is exposed too.

Overall I am tired of all sorts of noobs making statements that these cars are total **** because they are a few horsepower down compared to other versions. These things seem to easily rectified for about the same cost as a decent suspension set up or wheels & tires
There are a lot of factors other than horse power that make a good car & the Aus mk2 is full of these factors, but for various reasons mostly by members on this forum, it has become the car that people love bash

In regards to the digi & kjet, what I keep implying is that my mk2 performs much better on the open road for over taking & going up hills. It just feels like it has a lot more torque & the speedo indicates this as well.
Where as my mk1 that had an EV motor properly set up was deadly from 0-100, after that no where near as impressive


I am a just sharing experiences, if this conflicts with the interests of others the I am very sorry

[aussieg60]

I think aliamk2 is refering to Bosch Digi2 ECU's where most are same/similar, but it's the ROM program that's different.

How different is a Digi2 PB motor rated output 82KW to a KJet 82KW motor ? Any experiences between the 2 ?

[Oneofthegreats]

I've been reading through this thread & I'm amazed at the amount of stupid info & dribble on here & I could just about quote the entire thread & point out all the mistakes & missinformation I've read.

But I won't, cause obviously none of you will listen, especially the ones with no mechanical experience or background & will go on choosing the info that best suit's them from there vast mechanical knowledge & experience.

I will say though, that if the ECU's are all the same but the part #'s/prefix's are different. What does that tell you......

There different & there different for a reason! Argue all you like, I don't care & wake up to yourself.

Have you ever thought about different climate's, condition's, whether the car has a Oxy. sensor, no oxy. sensor, has it been retrofitted, does the car have a cat. convertor, has a cat. convertor been retrofitted?

Also Digi doesn't have the learning capabilties as has been stated & if you drive it hard it won't learn to deal with the demand's!

It's all a fixed map preset by the factory after million's of hour's & dollar's of testing.

Self learning didn't come about till the very late 90's & I'm sure the VW's didn't have that technology till the mk4 so late 90's it is.

If you say the K-jet is crap, & fell on it's face after 100km/h, then it wasn't setup properly to start with sorry. Just cause you drop a name & take it somewhere doesn't mean they'll get it right.

Did you check the part #'s of the K-jet gear? How do you know they didn't fit 1.6L K-jet gear?

Just thought I'd throw this in for good measure. If some of you think the mk2 is the most significant golf ever made. Pull your head's in & do some research.

The mk1 brought VW back from the brink & if it wasn't for the mk1, VW would have ended all together full stop!

So what is the most sigificant model now?

Also, the mk1 outsold the mk2 too! haha.

Also I don't look at them as collector's car out here at all & I don't think they ever will be.

What Aust. history do they have out here? None!

[GOLFBALLS]

Also Digi doesn't have the learning capabilties as has been stated & if you drive it hard it won't learn to deal with the demand's!

It's all a fixed map preset by the factory after million's of hour's & dollar's of testing.

Self learning didn't come about till the very late 90's & I'm sure the VW's didn't have that technology till the mk4 so late 90's it is.

Just for the record, I'm aware that those Digi ECU's dont "learn" I shoulda stated that my car goes better because the rubbish that builds up in the exhaust system got fried and blown out, and freed up... I think...? I'm not stoopid i swear. Honest! Hahaaa

[aussieg60]

Have you ever thought about different climate's, condition's, whether the car has a Oxy. sensor, no oxy. sensor, has it been retrofitted, does the car have a cat. convertor, has a cat. convertor been retrofitted?

This can easily be bypassed/ignored in the ROM's programming code

[aliasmk2]

I've been reading through this thread & I'm amazed at the amount of stupid info & dribble on here & I could just about quote the entire thread & point out all the mistakes & missinformation I've read.

But I won't, cause obviously none of you will listen, especially the ones with no mechanical experience or background & will go on choosing the info that best suit's them from there vast mechanical knowledge & experience.

I will say though, that if the ECU's are all the same but the part #'s/prefix's are different. What does that tell you......

There different & there different for a reason! Argue all you like, I don't care & wake up to yourself.

Have you ever thought about different climate's, condition's, whether the car has a Oxy. sensor, no oxy. sensor, has it been retrofitted, does the car have a cat. convertor, has a cat. convertor been retrofitted?

Also Digi doesn't have the learning capabilties as has been stated & if you drive it hard it won't learn to deal with the demand's!

It's all a fixed map preset by the factory after million's of hour's & dollar's of testing.

Self learning didn't come about till the very late 90's & I'm sure the VW's didn't have that technology till the mk4 so late 90's it is.

If you say the K-jet is crap, & fell on it's face after 100km/h, then it wasn't setup properly to start with sorry. Just cause you drop a name & take it somewhere doesn't mean they'll get it right.

Did you check the part #'s of the K-jet gear? How do you know they didn't fit 1.6L K-jet gear?

Just thought I'd throw this in for good measure. If some of you think the mk2 is the most significant golf ever made. Pull your head's in & do some research.

The mk1 brought VW back from the brink & if it wasn't for the mk1, VW would have ended all together full stop!

So what is the most sigificant model now?

Also, the mk1 outsold the mk2 too! haha.

Also I don't look at them as collector's car out here at all & I don't think they ever will be.

What Aust. history do they have out here? None!

1. A lot of the info has come from people with a mechanical background

2.I actually said or meant to say the last 1 or 2 prefix change RANDOMLY all over the world, even with the same occuring in the UK & US as what appears in Aus?
If the ECU is designed for a countries specific climate, which one did they choose for Aus, a county that has an extremly variable climate or did they use different ones eg Hobart or Darwin?

3.I regards to kjet, personally I prefer it to kjet as an overall package for a variety of reasons, that I will not go into as it is clear that lack the intellectual capacity required.

4.As for your opinion in regards to mk2 not being wort a mention, well thank god it is only an opinion & I think you would be out of sync with a lot of people around here.

5. As for Australia having no history, where the hell does that come from?

How does 60,000 years & counting grab you. I proudly live in Bulungjulung country, which is part of the oldest surviving civilisations in the world today.
Whats your history???????????????????????

Further more I think you should go & wash the sand out of your speedo's, then go put your head back where it belongs
Just because you have had a bad day or whatever you should'nt come on here & start abusing people because they said something that ticked you off

[Jarred]

the history was in regards to the mk 2's history in australia. ie, Ford XY gtho phase 3, torana XU1/A9X etc, these cars have history in Aust, and thier values will continue to rise.

The mk 2 golf never won bathurst..