VR6 into a Mk2 FAQs

[schwartza3]

hey matt, since you've done a vr6 conversion into a mk2 could you tell me roughly how much i would be looking at? (everything supplied)
also, vr6 into a mk1?
cheers

[Jarred]

hey matt, since you've done a vr6 conversion into a mk2 could you tell me roughly how much i would be looking at? (everything supplied)
also, vr6 into a mk1?
cheers

VR6 into a mk 2, is much easier than into a mk 1. I believe it's because of the similarities between the mk 2 and mk 3 subframes and engine mounts.

AFAIK, Bank on 10K, if you can get parts at the right prices, and do some work yourself. That includes buy a wrecked VR, and using the bits you need, and selling some you dont. Not sure how much labour would be, Matt?

Brenton is in the process of putting a VR6 into a mk 2. PM him, DVR68U, he might be able to give you some pointers.

Also this site is pretty handy: http://mk2vr6.com/board/index.php UK based, but plenty of info.

[DVR68U]

for the cars before '91 you have to change the whole fuse box and looms when you do the conversion which is harder than the "plug and play" aussie delivered mk2's but still do able. you'd want to be able to do it yourself or its gunna cost you alot of money all up . prob the same as a cheap mk4 gti lol
cheers brenton

[Golf Loon]

Just moved this thread over from the classifieds.
This question does get asked, so lets have a thread for it.

The Golf VR6 is an A3 Chassis Car,

The Mk2 Golf is an A2 chassis, which has the same boltin points for the subframe as an A3, so if you swop the subframes, the VR6 physically bolts straight in.

You would retain the driveshaftss, wide track and big brakes of the VR6 and probably swop the rear axle and 5 stud pattern to match.

If you use a post 90 model Golf 2, the fusebox is the same as the Mk3, so its basically plug and play with the wiring loom.

If doing it to a small bumpered early car, you would use the whole vr6 car loom or splice in the A2 rear loom.

You still need to work out the dash, and make it all pretty.

Then $1000 for engineering and same again for rego.

A Seat Ibiza or Cordoba is an A3 Chassis car, so is the same swop.
I did one of them.

Into an A1 chassis car, the job is very hard as they do not have separate subframes, and engine mount fabrication and chassis strengthening is required.

Better to drop in a 20VT into an A1 I reckon.

VR6 Mk 1 was done by Jim Cotton at Awesome GTI in the UK in 93, you could do a search and find that car on the net.

As far as I know there are 2 Golf 2 VR6s in Australia, one built by dvr68u and one built in 95 by James Mckinnon.

There is also my old Beeza VR6, now in the hands of William and 2 VR6 2 Door CL conversions that I know of, a white one in Sydney and a Blue one in Tassie.

The most awesome build thread ever

http://web.archive.org/web/20080214232239/http://www.futrellautowerks.com/projects/89clvr6.htm

Brentons one

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showthread.php?t=11763&highlight=vr6+mk2

James` Old Car

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showthread.php?t=16504

Others

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4068407

http://cultstyle.pl/kefirpolo.htm

http://www.bb-automobiltechnik.de/bb...lo_vr6_28t.php

http://vwzone.pl/index.php?modul=uzytkownik&id=200

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2862410

[Spyda]

i cant wait to find a wreaked vr6. So much info is available it should be a walk in the park, or at least as close to a walk in the park as an engine conversion can get.

[scoob02]

Golf Loon, what abt the 1.8t from MkIV GTi, Audi etc into a Mk3 Golf/Ibiza? Easy?

Cheers

[Golf Loon]

Golf Loon, what abt the 1.8t from MkIV GTi, Audi etc into a Mk3 Golf/Ibiza? Easy?

Cheers

That should probably be a thread in its own right.
That swop is good in that the engines are a similar weight and you can use the 4cylinder gearbox etc.

The hard part is that there is no plug and play loom. You can either use the whole Mk4 loom, ecu, ignition barell and so on, or go aftermarket ecu which will cost you $2500 upwards.

You need an early AEB engine code from an Audi A4 or Passat for a Mk1 conversion as it has the bolthole provision for the Mk1 engine mount.

[Golf Loon]

i cant wait to find a wreaked vr6. So much info is available it should be a walk in the park, or at least as close to a walk in the park as an engine conversion can get.

Sure it is. Thats why there are so many out there

If you can get an early VR6 donor 1994, it has the uncoded key and ecu, so less wiring.

[aliasmk2]

I did a large amount of research into this & read about 15 threads from other forums of people doing or have done a mk2 vr6 conversion
These people all spent a large amount of resources trying to get the car to handle like it did before the conversion without great success
A 4 cylinder engine is simply the sensible & best option for a mk2 turbo or not

[scoob02]

Mk3 Vr6 is nose heavy as it is IMO....never driven a Mk2 VR6 so only guess but it couldnt be any better..

Thanks for the info Golf Loon, something to think abt for a future project...in a Vento would be sweet

[rudiger_isosceles]

Okay so i have a 95 VR6 and a 92 Mk2 GTI.... would it be worth pulling apart a perfectly good colour concept vr6 with only 130 thousand ks to make an extremely awesome mk2 vr6? I love the vr6, but i got beaten by a starlet GT the other day, so i'm screaming out for more power, or less weight... Considering that i dont have to buy anything, so to speak, in order to do the conversion, and i could recycle my leather seats and various other things that are good about the mk3, would it be a good idea. Its probably worth pointing out that the GTI is off the road at the moment because of some ignition problem, probably the ignition switch. This means i wont actually be going from two working cars to one, just swapping which car it is that works, basically. What does everyone think?

[Tim]

What does everyone think?

Im not everyone but I think you'd be mad to butcher a perfectly good car. If you want to do it buy a wrecked VR6 at an auction. they pop up every now and then.

[Golf Loon]

I reckon you`ll quickly goto 2 cars that dont work and no I wouldnt pull apart a colour concept.

Get a VR6 donk, or donor car and do another Mk2 VR6 by all means. Ans you can fix your auto problem at the same time.

I have a VR6 wreck if you feel the need.

[rudiger_isosceles]

Yeah, i nearly bought a passat vr6 a few months back for real cheap, the decision was between mk2 vr6 or going to africa and europe, i ended up deciding against the mk2 vr6 and am about 6 weeks away from going away. If i get kidnapped by muslim extremists in north africa though, i'm really going to regret not building that car. On the other hand, if everything goes well there'll always be new opportunities for it. One day i'm going to beat that starlet GT. Especially if i dont have a 110 kg maori passenger next time.

[aliasmk2]

i would'nt break either of those 2 cars as they are both limited editions & it would be a shame to mongralise them in any way
There are plenty of mk1 2doors getting sold for almost nothing, that would make great project cars
Not to mention that a mk1 2 door weighs not much over 800kg's & that way you could keep your maori mate as well