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  • I could powdercoat a few of em at work if you were closer!

    That mint red UK Cabby that is/was for sale had a perfectly straight bar, looked homemade (the same way I'd make it).

    Trying to find the picture of it!

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    • Originally posted by sports racer View Post
      The ones I've built for my Golfs are straight. I use 1" square section tubing 3" longer than needed to touch both bolts holding in the control arms (1.5" overlap at each end). To this I weld a piece of flat 1/4 inch plate at each end (approx 2" x 2.5") sticking up from the tubing, not out so it looks like a dodgy 2 headed axe. The holes at each end are drilled just far enough away from the square section tubing to allow a socket enough room to get on the existing control arm bolts. Very easy to make and it doesn't require any threaded bits to make it fit because it's measured and drilled to suit your car.
      Good for the DIYer, but for a mass produce item no..
      I took the lower bar off my green one, and put it on the beige today. and i had to wind out one end a little to make it fit. im guess its flexed more over the years.
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      • I've made a few of these using dimensional data from a Golf Mk1 engineering drawing I found on the NET ages ago:



        The critical measurement is 683mm centre to centre between the front lower control arm retaining bolts - make your brace to these dimensions - don't measure you car as it's quite common for Mk1's to be out of alignment (or so I've read). My car and my brothers Mk1 were spot on and the lower brace made a noticeable difference to the front end on Bro's car.

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        • Golf got a wheel alignment today. Doesn't understeer anymore. I kinda figured that was half the problem at the time but posted the info anyways. It steers better now in the wet than it did before in the dry! ha. Got my bent rim fixed and back on now too. No more scabby rusty one.

          Gimme some time as i've been really busy, but i'm keen to make a few stress bars if people are interested. Function over form for me, but i'll make sure they look good. I'll look into powder coating them too if people like.

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          • On the chassis brace - I have made 3 of these and have ended up making them straight because its easier. I use a length of 35x35x3 RHS, and 2 bits of 50x50x5 angle. The 50x50 ends cap the ends of the RHS and the other leg of the angle is where the hole is drilled. The angle can be about 75mm long, and so the brace sits a bit lower than the level of the holes.

            I also drill it to 683 and use whatever means necessary to bend the car into place to get the bolts in. The worst one i ever did was my old GLD, it was more like 686 between centres. Once I'd pulled it back in and the bar was on the car felt brand new to drive.

            just for you mk1 lovers



            PS i can do a stress analysis if anyones interested
            Last edited by gldgti; 06-07-2011, 02:54 PM.
            '07 Touareg V6 TDI with air suspension
            '98 Mk3 Cabriolet 2.0 8V
            '99 A4 Quattro 1.8T

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            • Zenders, right now!

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              • ooooooh. Pretty drawings, lol.

                I reckon there aer more ways to do a mk 1 chassis bar than there are to swing a cat!


                i like volkswagens
                My blog: http://garagefiftythree.blogspot.com.au/

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                • Originally posted by gldgti View Post
                  On the chassis brace - I have made 3 of these and have ended up making them straight because its easier. I use a length of 35x35x3 RHS, and 2 bits of 50x50x5 angle. The 50x50 ends cap the ends of the RHS and the other leg of the angle is where the hole is drilled. The angle can be about 75mm long, and so the brace sits a bit lower than the level of the holes.

                  I also drill it to 683 and use whatever means necessary to bend the car into place to get the bolts in. The worst one i ever did was my old GLD, it was more like 686 between centres. Once I'd pulled it back in and the bar was on the car felt brand new to drive.

                  just for you mk1 lovers



                  PS i can do a stress analysis if anyones interested
                  Cheers, Aydan. Saves me doing a drawing!

                  That's exactly what I had in mind. I guess great minds think alike, right? haha. Thanks mate.

                  Stress analysis with FEA is probably overkill. ha.

                  Originally posted by Jace View Post
                  Zenders, right now!
                  Don't sell your Mk1 and i'll promise to fit them.

                  Originally posted by Jarred View Post
                  ooooooh. Pretty drawings, lol.

                  I reckon there aer more ways to do a mk 1 chassis bar than there are to swing a cat!
                  Yes, there are. Mine on the 16v is completely different. I like Aydan's design though. Like I said, form over function, but still looks good.
                  Last edited by Preen59; 06-07-2011, 08:24 PM.

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                  • I've got a plan. OD 25x2.5mm wall seamless hydraulic tube and rose joints. 1 bend.. or 2. Depends.

                    I'll get back to you.

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                    • Originally posted by Preen59 View Post
                      I've got a plan. OD 25x2.5mm wall seamless hydraulic tube and rose joints. 1 bend.. or 2. Depends.

                      I'll get back to you.
                      cheers c**t!

                      76 Scirocco

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                      • Originally posted by dom123 View Post
                        cheers c**t!
                        fkn lol!!!
                        <space for rent>

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                        • BTW - i've used mine of the above design to jack the car up from.... works great lucky the pivot bolts are STRONG.
                          '07 Touareg V6 TDI with air suspension
                          '98 Mk3 Cabriolet 2.0 8V
                          '99 A4 Quattro 1.8T

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                          • Well, I have enough tube for 4 (I can make more, just means I'll have to buy more). So I'll look into making a pattern this weekend. After that it's just turning up some ends, TIGing them on, getting some rose joints and getting the suckers powder coated. I'm thinking satin black.. But you guys can tell me what you want.

                            Originally posted by dom123 View Post
                            cheers c**t!
                            Originally posted by GRN_VAGN View Post
                            fkn lol!!!
                            ****ing classy.

                            Originally posted by gldgti View Post
                            BTW - i've used mine of the above design to jack the car up from.... works great lucky the pivot bolts are STRONG.
                            Yeah Timmy B ties his Mk1 down on the trailer via the lower stress bar and has jacked off of it before, too.

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                            • Originally posted by Preen59 View Post
                              Well, I have enough tube for 4 (I can make more, just means I'll have to buy more). So I'll look into making a pattern this weekend. After that it's just turning up some ends, TIGing them on, getting some rose joints and getting the suckers powder coated. I'm thinking satin black.. But you guys can tell me what you want.





                              ****ing classy.



                              Yeah Timmy B ties his Mk1 down on the trailer via the lower stress bar and has jacked off of it before, too.
                              giggles,

                              I havnt used mine to jack up car, cause it has a bend and i dont want it to bend straight
                              car needs some nice wheels now, Zenders maybe
                              <space for rent>

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                              • Yeah you heard me..

                                Yes I may put them on at a later date.

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