Hey guys, after some engine advice

[Golf Loon]

And to be fair, Dave ate it all except 2 bits of bread.
Just not in 8 mins.
He is asleep now tho.

[Peter Jones]

The motor is in! There's still a few minor things to see to before I fire it up.

I didn't realise immediately but I'm going to have to fit an electric fuel pump, the Cordoba must have had the single point injection. There's a breather box bolted to the block where the fuel pump should be. There might be a pump drive behind the breather box but it looked like I'd have to block off a few other holes if I pulled it off. After 30 years it's probably time for a new fuel pump anyway.

The heater plumbing was fun, but with all the Mk I and cordoba hoses there was enough bends to make it work.

The Cordoba flywheel doesn't have the same notches in it to allow it to get past the CV, I had to pull the stud out of the gearbox at the rear to get the motor to mate up.

I could have pulled the Cv and flange off to I s'pose but I was already committed and the stud seemed easier.

I should mention that I probably did this the hard way and left gearbox in the car.

The other thing that was different with the Cordy motor was the offset and the bolt pattern of the water pump pulley flange. I had a new MK I water pump lying about so that problem was easily solved.

There was a few other minor hiccups but it all went together pretty well. The engine bay is quite a hybrid now, there's an odd mix of diesel, 1600 and now ADZ motor bit ins there. I'll need thee different manuals to figure it out.

All that remains is to install the fuel pump. I think I can make it fit up under the rear seat beside the tank if all goes to plan. There's a temp sender to block off and a few wires to tidy up and it's pretty much done.

Here's a progress shot, I'll pop up a final when it's done.

Pete

[Peter Jones]

And here's an up to the minute shot. It's too cold out there to do anything else tonight. Hopefully I'll be able get the fiddly bits done at night and finish it off on Saturday morning.

Thanks again Matt and Dave for supplying the motor.

Pete

[Peter Jones]

Hmm! Must paint that rocker cover this weekend!

I knew Id be putting my greasy mits all over it so I didn't bother just yet.

Pete

[Golf Loon]

Looks like you had a busy weekend Pete.

I completely forgot about the fuelpump. I`m guessing there is no plate over the mechanical pump hole. Still you can wire up a pump pretty easy.

Looks sweet in there, but you definately did it the hard way leaving the gearbox in.

[Peter Jones]

Looks sweet in there, but you definately did it the hard way leaving the gearbox in.

Yeah I know but i was too lazy to undo the CVs. I undid all the gearbox mounts and dropped it all as low as it would go. It was a bit of a fight but brute force and ignorance saved the day!

Pete

[K_Man]

Many thanks go out to Golf Loon, awesome service! I've decided while i wait for a bit more cash/time to put the new motor in, I'll shop around for a half decent carb setup and save up for a clutch kit. Might as well do everything I can at once while old smokey is still kicking!

BTW, thankyou so much for the new door cards, looks awesome without the speaker holes now!

[Peter Jones]

BTW, thankyou so much for the new door cards, looks awesome without the speaker holes now!

Hahahaha I think I know where those door cards came from - great work Loony!

Pete

[GoLfMan]

Yeah I know but i was too lazy to undo the CVs. I undid all the gearbox mounts and dropped it all as low as it would go. It was a bit of a fight but brute force and ignorance saved the day!

Pete

fat set up uve got there, should go like stink your taking me for a ride once its running OK!

[Golf Loon]

Hahahaha I think I know where those door cards came from - great work Loony!

Pete

Yeah I thought that`d make you smile, just passing on the golfie love
His car had the same colour ones with big holes in.
Keep the ones you took out of red Peter.

[Peter Jones]

fat set up uve got there, should go like stink your taking me for a ride once its running OK!

Yep should be fun. It's basically a MK III 1800 motor from what I can gather. In stock form they make about 90Hp. The old 1600 by contrast made about 75Hp when it was new which was about 30 years ago! Now the 1600 mostly makes smoke rather than horsepower.

I'm not sure whether that carb will be better than the single point injection that was on the motor originally, probably about the same I'd guess, although the 1600 would rev like crazy running this carby.

The car still has it's diesel 4 speed gearbox which is quite low and close ratios.

It's going to be interesting to line it up side by side (In a controlled closed track environment of course.) with the KJET 1800 (& long range 5 speed) in my other Golf.

Pete

[Golf Loon]

I reckon that carby will chuck in more fuel than the single point, but wont be as economical.

Diesel box is good for takeoff and the 1.8CL motor is still very fresh. Went like stink in the Cordoba

Cant wait to see the closed track trials

[blackgti1.8]

Yep should be fun. It's basically a MK III 1800 motor from what I can gather. In stock form they make about 90Hp. The old 1600 by contrast made about 75Hp when it was new which was about 30 years ago! Now the 1600 mostly makes smoke rather than horsepower.

I'm not sure whether that carb will be better than the single point injection that was on the motor originally, probably about the same I'd guess, although the 1600 would rev like crazy running this carby.

The car still has it's diesel 4 speed gearbox which is quite low and close ratios.

It's going to be interesting to line it up side by side (In a controlled closed track environment of course.) with the KJET 1800 (& long range 5 speed) in my other Golf.

Pete

Hmm, comparing your MK III 1800 to your old and tired 1600 is not entirely fair mayben:

The difference between a fresh 1600 (carby) and a (single-point injected) 1800 may be be as much as you think...
I reckon my old carby (albeit tweaked) 1600 would give my current 1800 GTI a good fright...

Still, you *have* a fresh (single-point injected) 1800 and not a fresh carby 1600, so I guess that the point is moot....

Having said that, my money is on the Kjet 1800
Have fun anyway...

BTW (to respond to Loon's post), I'm constantly amazed at the (lack of) fuel economy in my GTI Makes the VT look enconomical...

[Golf Loon]

Your GTI could use a tune I reckon Ian, smells fuelly from behind it. It would probably go harder a bit more lean too.

[Peter Jones]

Fair enough, don't get me wrong though, this mod was about making the car driveable again. The performance gain is a bonus. I did the research on horsepower etc after I'd purchased the motor. If a fresh 1600 had of come up at a similar price first I probably would have done that. I was just curious as to what the difference might be. Horsepower wasn't my primary concern, reliability was.

Given the option of a second hand 30 year old 1600 vs a 10 year old 1800 I thought I'd go for the motor with the newer bits.

The 1600 was actually very fast and could easily light up the 195 rubber. I was quite happy with the performance of the 1600. It happily blew the doors off Hyundais and gave quite a few others a bit of a fright. I've seen track prepped 1600s that would easily walk away from my K-Jet 1800.

There was 2 issues with the 1600.

1. It would blow the entire contents of the sump out the breather in three weeks of five minute trips to the train station.(I set up a 2 litre bottle to catch it so I could pour it back in!)

2. It would overheat after 5 minutes of running. (Actually boil!) Which is why I only drove it to the station! There's another very long thread somewhere about the lengths I went to to solve the overheating. It's simply dead.

On the topic of economy the K-Jet 1800 car actually gave me better fuel economy than the 1600 with that DGAV weber. I think I'll have to spend some time re-jetting the DGAV on the new 1800 when I get the chance.

I quite liked driving the 1600, it's nice and quiet compared to the other Golf, a nice little jigger to putter about the burbs in.

Pete