My new mk1:)

[jayjay]

to get the most out of a lumpy cam, you need expensive headwork.. ie 5 angle valve job and lots of porting... i dont reckon you'd utilise the potential of the twin carbs/schrick cam without more compression either... especially when schrick cams are like $6-700 landed.

you should talk to peterjones about twin carbs and mk1 track days.

[16v_kid]

nah bella's hot... in her own unique kinda.... hectic 20inch chromies kinda way.

to get the most out of a lumpy ass cam, you need expensive headwork.. ie 5 angle valve job and lots of porting... i dont reckon you'd utilise the potential of the twin carbs/schrick cam without more compression either... especially when schrick cams are like $6-700 landed.

you should talk to peterjones about twin carbs and mk1 track days.

theres going to heaps of headwork done.

im useing stock audi pistons.

[jayjay]

what kind of audi pistons?? btw the mk1 looks like it's coming along. top work!

[Spyda]

iv changed my mind....

Im not going to sell her

instead, im going to put in a 2L engine in with a gti head and supertech valves.
and maybe a schrick cam, a nice lumpy one. and of course twin webers.

im going to put the kwv3 on it aswell.

i need some nice rims now...

also i was thinking to go track days with this..

how much hp could i get out of this?

cheers

I remember when i was your age and i was dreaming this big, then i grew up and realised money doesnt grow on trees.

Jarred is on drugs, you wont be making 140hp. Tim was making 140 and he had alot more work then a cam and webbers.
You will make about the same as what Pete makes in his track car maby a bit more with head work etc, he has a similar setup. 2L, sexy carbies, cam, exhaust etc.

V3's are over kill and where the hell did you pull them from haha.

Good to see you are not selling it. I would recommend doing it up the same way as in that pic you post then drop a 16v in.

[16v_kid]

I remember when i was your age and i was dreaming this big, then i grew up and realised money doesnt grow on trees.

Jarred is on drugs, you wont be making 140hp. Tim was making 140 and he had alot more work then a cam and webbers.
You will make about the same as what Pete makes in his track car, he has a similar setup. 2L, sexy carbies, cam, exhaust etc.

V3's are over kill and where the hell did you pull them from haha.

Good to see you are not selling it. I would recommend doing it up the same way as in that pic you post then drop a 16v in.

yeah 16v there not to bad...

My dad has 3 16v heads and tonnes of 1.8 and 2.0 blocks.

but im on my by my self on this one.

And the V3's are my old mans aswell ahahahaha, im going to borrow them for a few months till he makes his car.

Iv got the block, everything is bored out and balanced. I have the head aswell. My dad will polish her up.
The schrick cam, well shes not here yet ahahah
Iv got the supertech valves 1.5mm oversize.

there pretty good.

[16v_kid]

how much is pete making HP?

[Spyda]

yeah 16v there not to bad...

My dad has 3 16v heads and tonnes of 1.8 and 2.0 blocks.

but im on my by my self on this one.

And the V3's are my old mans aswell ahahahaha, im going to borrow them for a few months till he makes his car.

Iv got the block, everything is bored out and balanced. I have the head aswell. My dad will polish her up.
The schrick cam, well shes not here yet ahahah
Iv got the supertech valves 1.5mm oversize.

there pretty good.

Well that will save you a bit of money than if your old man has all the stuff ready to go.

Dunno how much power pete is making, i think it was 90kw, hes got the dyno sheet somewhere in his build thread.

[Jarred]

Tim was making 130-140HP on Kjet with 10:1 cr, a 276, larger throttlebody, & some volvo Kjet bits. he also had minor work on the ports. I know cause I've seen the head with my own eyes, off the block.

Pete is making similar HP I believe. 68kw@fw. Tim made about 66kw@fw from memory.

and i don't do drugs

[16v_kid]

Tim was making 130-140HP on Kjet with 10:1 cr, a 276, larger throttlebody, & some volvo Kjet bits. he also had minor work on the ports. I know cause I've seen the head with my own eyes, off the block.

Pete is making similar HP I believe. 68kw@fw. Tim made about 66kw@fw from memory.

and i don't do drugs

how come soo little....i was expecting this engine to make 150hp at least.

[Spyda]

Tim was making 130-140HP on Kjet with 10:1 cr, a 276, larger throttlebody, & some volvo Kjet bits. he also had minor work on the ports. I know cause I've seen the head with my own eyes, off the block.

Pete is making similar HP I believe. 68kw@fw. Tim made about 66kw@fw from memory.

and i don't do drugs

Well good, must be just me than.

I just went through the thread and found some stuff.

My GX with 9.5:1 CR, matched ported cyl. head made 66fwkw's or 117engine hp 10 year's ago.

That's without the volvo k-jet gear, audi throttle body etc. It did have extractor's & 2" exhaust.

My GX at the end of it's life was making approx 135+hp.

Tims last car (the one on the d90's) i dunno if that was the GX or GLS had about the same power but had some bottom end work aswell, or atleast thats what i read from the VW aus magazine. Dont quote me on that though, i can look it up if you want.


I dunno why Pete isnt making more power, i think everyone expected it to more but Pete doesnt seem to worried.

ATLEAST 150hp on a carbie 8v = alot of work and $$$
UK 8v (PB) Mk2s running digi with 2L bottom ends, cam, chip, exhaust get ~130-140hp at the fly and only break 150hp at the fly when you start to increase valve size.

[jayjay]

NA hp from 8v counterflow vw motors is hard to come by...

it seems like a ton of effort to build an 8v when you have a 16v motor available to you.

with the money i've put into my 8v build, i could have been driving around in a 20v mk2 already...

[Jarred]

yea I'm not sure what's missing in the numbers with Pete's car. But he reckon's it's there on the track.

I'm pretty sure Tim's engine had flat top pistons. GX standard is 8.5:1 CR, he's would have had to have pistons. currently it's got a standard GX in it, and probably like 110HP or something. but his built engine was good for 130-140HP depending on cam. I was also looking for that info in a thread too, but got sidetracked. oospy.

Gordo. if you go with a big cam [288-292] with some trick head work [read: so the head flows as much as the cam needs] and with a proper [proper!] tune, it should make 150HP. It'll chew juice and be really lumpy, so not great for the street. but would be fun.

your CR would need to be kinda high, which also kills streetability. I'm thinking 12:1 roughly. it'll need 98-100 octane petrol, min. it'd be a roit on the track though.

or. you could get a 16V, even a 1.8KR is std 139HP add mild cams, valves and minor head work, with twins, and already be looking at 140-150HP, let alone adding some more compression and more head work & bigger cams. AFAIK. [I'm a little rusty on 16V's...]

[jayjay]

mhmm. the 1.8 kr motor puts out 139hp stock...

if you're going to rebuild it (seeing as you have heads and blocks lying around) a mild port and new bearings and some autotech cams will have you easily around the 150hp mark.. or more depending on who you know to mess with your k-jet fueling.

if i wanted just a bolt in k-jet upgrade, 9a 2.0 block, kr head, 270 degree cams, port-age, 50mm inlet manifold and brum...

if you have all the other bits and bobs around, it's just cams and headwork.

oh, plus, twin carbs look heeeaaaaps better when you can see them. in an 8v, they just point at the bulkhead. with a 16v, they're shiny and in your face!

[Water Boy]

Getting big number at the wheels with any Mk1 isnt easy...

If you want to drag your mates off at the traffic lights what are you doing with a Mk1? Get a Integra TypeR or something with an SR20 easy cheap reliable HP at the drop of your right foot.

If you have the parts laying round I say go for it but remember getting 100hp at the wheels with an 8v revs which means money which means job which means lots of headaches.

Go for the Alfa if I wa you Gordan

[Preen59]

Ok fellas enough of the BS.. Here's the stats of Tims engine to the letter...

9.5CR stock GX engine with DX piston's, 276 TT cam, autotech valve srings, matched ported head & ported runner's in the intake, audi throttle body, & volvo fuel distributor & airflow flap. stock warm up reg. hurricane extractor's & 2" free flowing system. Mk2 GTI dizzy. stock advance. the only headwork was the port entry's to match the intake gasket. wasn't really all that special.

it was making the 66kwatw with the stock cam & fuel system. not even the GTI cam or volvo fuel setup!