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  • How bad is it having a dying DMF?

    Hey team,

    My DMF is worn out and it was possibly due to a faulty starter motor.

    I am wondering how necessary it is to have it fixed? I understand the rattle is annoying, and it sounds terrible turn on and off. However the price to have the DMF and motor was so high, are there any alternatives?

    V

  • #2
    What car? There may be a single-mass conversion kit available.

    I wouldn't be leaving it too long, they can and will let go, and it's not pretty.
    '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
    '01 Beetle 2.0

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Umai Naa!! View Post
      What car? There may be a single-mass conversion kit available.

      I wouldn't be leaving it too long, they can and will let go, and it's not pretty.

      It's a mk5 GT TDI (2009)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Umai Naa!! View Post
        I wouldn't be leaving it too long, they can and will let go, and it's not pretty.
        I have read about a failed DMF on a T4 breaking a hole in the transmission housing, so double your trouble.
        Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
        2001 T4 TRAKKA Syncro 2.5TDI,2006 Mk5 2.0TDI Golf manual,2001 Polo 1.4 16V manual [now sold], '09 2.0CR TDI Tiguan manual,
        Numerous Mk1 Golf diesels

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        • #5
          You can definitely get an SMF conversion, Darkside developments list all the parts.
          '07 Touareg V6 TDI with air suspension
          '98 Mk3 Cabriolet 2.0 8V
          '99 A4 Quattro 1.8T

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          • #6
            Originally posted by gldgti View Post
            You can definitely get an SMF conversion, Darkside developments list all the parts.
            Thanks for the info, is going to an SMF recommended? If so why?

            Is this the correct kit, Darkside Developments - Valeo Single Mass Flywheel (SMF) & Clutch Kit for VW 02Q 6 Speed

            The other one is a "Sach's racing SMF" and it says it is not recommended for city driving.

            Also won't a SMF be really noisy and a lot of vibration on a diesel?
            Last edited by vk; 28-08-2017, 01:16 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by vraptor View Post
              Thanks for the info, is going to an SMF recommended? If so why?
              I am pro DMF. Owners buy the SMF because its cheaper.
              Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
              2001 T4 TRAKKA Syncro 2.5TDI,2006 Mk5 2.0TDI Golf manual,2001 Polo 1.4 16V manual [now sold], '09 2.0CR TDI Tiguan manual,
              Numerous Mk1 Golf diesels

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              • #8
                SMF conversion is common with 4wd dual cab utes. Definitely transfers more NVH through to the cabin. No way would I go for an SMF conversion on a passenger vehicle for normal driving.
                Cheers

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                • #9
                  A neighbour of mine owned a Nissan Navara that he had fitted with a SMF during a clutch change. The dealership warned him prior that he would have gearbox noise. He didn't trust them & went ahead with the SMF. The very first time he started it the gearbox was quite noisy.
                  The ute had done less than 100,000km at the time & he decided to sell it. He didn't want to sell it privately because of the noise & took a big hit when he traded it.
                  Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
                  2001 T4 TRAKKA Syncro 2.5TDI,2006 Mk5 2.0TDI Golf manual,2001 Polo 1.4 16V manual [now sold], '09 2.0CR TDI Tiguan manual,
                  Numerous Mk1 Golf diesels

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                  • #10
                    Vraptor,
                    is your car a manual or DSG?
                    MKV Sportsline Soot Belcher
                    MKV Jetta FSI DSG

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by asa572 View Post
                      Vraptor,
                      is your car a manual or DSG?
                      It's a DSG, how come?

                      I have just been quoted $2255.00 to replace my DMF, and recommended an additional $500 to replace the starter motor too. Is that normal?

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                      • #12
                        Yeah, the DMF for them is pretty pricey. I'm not aware of any sort of SMF kit to suit the DSG.

                        As for the starter motor, what's wrong with it?
                        '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
                        '01 Beetle 2.0

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by vraptor View Post
                          It's a DSG, how come?

                          I have just been quoted $2255.00 to replace my DMF, and recommended an additional $500 to replace the starter motor too. Is that normal?
                          You will be pushing **** up a hill to get a SMF for a DSG. I have seen them made for petrols with DSG's but if you put one on a Diesel with a DSG you would probably stuff the gearbox in no time.
                          As for the starter motor, who told you it probably stuffed the flywheel?
                          A starter motor will not wreck a DMF.
                          MKV Sportsline Soot Belcher
                          MKV Jetta FSI DSG

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                          • #14
                            Slow crank, is probably why. Common issue with the TDIs.

                            I'd be inlcined to leave it be, for now. If it starts to cause issues down the track, it's only a 20min job to swap out.
                            '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
                            '01 Beetle 2.0

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Umai Naa!! View Post
                              Slow crank, is probably why. Common issue with the TDIs.

                              I'd be inlcined to leave it be, for now. If it starts to cause issues down the track, it's only a 20min job to swap out.
                              It's only a 20 minute job to swap out the DMF?

                              The mechanic has told me that often a faulty starter motor can lead to the DMF failing and losing it's spring due to the vibrations on a slow startup. I've had battery issues before that have apparantly caused issues to my starter motor and in turn the DMF. This is what I am being told at Volkwerke

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