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  • Engine Mount Insert - Vibration unbearable?

    Hi guys,

    I just had the engine mount insert installed on my vehicle, had it installed in part of another job I had to get done.

    The person said that they had issues installing it, and had to grind it down a bit, I wasnt sure what they meant by this but I wanted to know if thats normal?

    Secondly, the vibration on idle is basically unbearable right now, the whole sound like rings in ears like having two windows open on the freeway.

    Is this normal on first install?

    edit: talking about one of these http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...t-58691-3.html

    v

  • #2
    I went for the PowerFlex diesel one which is just shoreA 60 hardness
    Only can feel a slight increase in engine vibration and according to the missus it's unnoticeable
    It normally dies down a little after running in but that all depends on what hardness you went with

    Not sure about the grinding part thought because I have a different mount than yours
    They normally don't need altering before fitting
    06 Polo TDi

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TDIfan View Post
      I went for the PowerFlex diesel one which is just shoreA 60 hardness
      Only can feel a slight increase in engine vibration and according to the missus it's unnoticeable
      It normally dies down a little after running in but that all depends on what hardness you went with

      Not sure about the grinding part thought because I have a different mount than yours
      They normally don't need altering before fitting
      Did you find when you first installed it that it was very rough? mine is so rough on reverse, and engaging/starting to move.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by vraptor View Post
        Did you find when you first installed it that it was very rough? mine is so rough on reverse, and engaging/starting to move.
        It's just a ShoreA 60 hardness mount which is really soft for mountings
        So no, the mount didn't make it rough even when I first installed it
        It's all about the hardness

        Gear changes and take off are all smooth without the sloppiness on the oem mount
        06 Polo TDi

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        • #5
          A cheaper alternative might be to fill the voids in your stock mount with some automotive polyurethane from the hardware store. Would certainly be softer - sika make one which is pretty soft but tough.
          '07 Touareg V6 TDI with air suspension
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          • #6
            I have a feeling i may have the wrong insert shape in there, as mine was for a pre 2007 Mk5, where as mine is a my09

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            • #7
              Originally posted by vraptor View Post
              I have a feeling i may have the wrong insert shape in there, as mine was for a pre 2007 Mk5, where as mine is a my09
              That would do it. There are two quite specific shapes.

              You still haven't said what hardness you fitted. You can buy anywhere from 60 (softest) to 90 (hardest). Road driven diesels need the softest version.
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              • #8
                Yep. I use the race insert on my Polo for track days and I can't wait to swap it back to the original after I get home (or even at the track if it's a long drive home)
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by brad View Post
                  That would do it. There are two quite specific shapes.

                  You still haven't said what hardness you fitted. You can buy anywhere from 60 (softest) to 90 (hardest). Road driven diesels need the softest version.
                  Had to try and find it, it's 90a hardness, so the hardest I guess.

                  I will need to change it, It's a pain having to pay to have it taken out again

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                  • #10
                    Hey guys, old tread I know.

                    I installed a CTS billet mount last week and that's the only mount that doesn't cause excessive vibration in my tdi. Would be worth looking into. I've tried 2 poly mounts and removed them straight away

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                    • #11
                      I fitted one thousands of k's ago; it was awful and unbearable for about 1,000km and then suddenly it was amazing. Nearly no vibration and still all of the grip - turns out one of the "lugs" broke off the flat section!

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                      Not that I'm saying you should mutilate yours; but it fixed all my issues!
                      I took it out a few thousand k's later and didn't run one for awhile - now I'm running a Superpro one (I think a 70d?) and I've raised the idle with VCDS to 850rpm. This time it remains intact, yet doesn't feel like a V8 Supercar!
                      2012 Octavia vRS TDI. Darkside big turbo, 3bar tune, other stuff. 200kW/650Nm.
                      1990 Mk1 Cabrio. 1.9 IDI w/ 18PSI.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mysticality View Post
                        I fitted one thousands of k's ago; it was awful and unbearable for about 1,000km and then suddenly it was amazing. Nearly no vibration and still all of the grip - turns out one of the "lugs" broke off the flat section!

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                        Not that I'm saying you should mutilate yours; but it fixed all my issues!
                        I took it out a few thousand k's later and didn't run one for awhile - now I'm running a Superpro one (I think a 70d?) and I've raised the idle with VCDS to 850rpm. This time it remains intact, yet doesn't feel like a V8 Supercar!

                        I ended up having to just take it out, I have purchased a Diesel one but have not installed it yet (this one here https://www.powerflex.co.uk/road-ser...esel/1916.html)

                        Interesting about raising the idle, was that hard? can you link me to the guide? I have VCDS and the cable.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by vraptor View Post
                          Interesting about raising the idle, was that hard? can you link me to the guide? I have VCDS and the cable.
                          I can't remember how I did it - it was awhile ago. I didn't use a guide, just found it myself; all well and good when you have a technical background!
                          I did some googling and found this, though. Ross-Tech: VAG-COM: VW MkIV Info
                          2012 Octavia vRS TDI. Darkside big turbo, 3bar tune, other stuff. 200kW/650Nm.
                          1990 Mk1 Cabrio. 1.9 IDI w/ 18PSI.
                          1985 Mazda T3500 adventuremobile. 1973 Superbug. 1972 Volvo 144 in poo-brown.
                          Not including hers...

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