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  • Surely our version is okay?

    Read this from the UK...

    Complete slating from users
    VW Polo 1.6 TDI | First Drives | Car Reviews | Auto Express

    Any VW technicians and mechanics able to assure me the diesel is okay?

    I note VW UK has withdrawn it from sale...
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    The comments on that site certainly gave it a panning; I certainly hope this isn't the typical Australian experience.
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    • #3
      Me too - fly to Melbourne on Friday to get mine - still looking forward to it,

      Cannot believe VW would let it go on unresolved

      When is yours due ? What's the wait for ?
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      • #4
        Yikes!!
        It sounds to me like the DPF is underspec'd for the engine/car and i wonder if the surging is due to auto regens while all those people are driving at slow speeds.

        And I wonder if they'd get mileage like the official figures if the DPF was deleted.
        I REALLY hope this doesn't apply for our (hopefully more open) roads.

        Best wishes for you guys. The rest of the car (as the UK users stated) is excellent - much more refined than my older 9N3 (with the noisy old 1.9-litre TDI unit)
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        • #5
          Sure sounds like the DPF during regen cycles, as extra fuel is injected to heat the DPF up, but it is late in the cycle and usually idle isn't affected, my TDI is a surgey, noisy mongrel to drive during a forced regen, and it's going to use extra fuel for sure. I still think selling a diesel for quiet, inner city, short trip driving is a huge mistake, purely from the DPF point of view.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by 77kw polo tdi View Post
            Me too - fly to Melbourne on Friday to get mine - still looking forward to it,

            Cannot believe VW would let it go on unresolved

            When is yours due ? What's the wait for ?
            Mine is due to land in Australia on Saturday; the order reason was because I wanted to get a few options and no dealers had cars coming with the spec I was after; been just under a six month wait so can't wait to get it.

            As for the issues being discussed here; does anyone have a sense of what short trips are classed as? 500m, 1km, 10km, 50km? I am hopeful that the car will arrive and not have issues; I haven't heard any local issues, but then again I haven't run into many users on the forum that have ticked the diesel box on the order sheet.
            6R Polo TDI; DSG

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            • #7
              As for the issues being discussed here; does anyone have a sense of what short trips are classed as? 500m, 1km, 10km, 50km? I am hopeful that the car will arrive and not have issues; I haven't heard any local issues, but then again I haven't run into many users on the forum that have ticked the diesel box on the order sheet.
              Spoke to VW AUS via email. 15km and under per day and they recommended petrol. They said any dealer would honor one or two free particle filter clean outs for free. So shouldn't be an issue for most of us
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              • #8
                Originally posted by 77kw polo tdi View Post
                Spoke to VW AUS via email. 15km and under per day and they recommended petrol. They said any dealer would honor one or two free particle filter clean outs for free. So shouldn't be an issue for most of us
                Could be an issue for me; I think we would struggle to do 20km a day. Wonderful to get this news a couple of days out from the arrival of my new car after waiting so long. Having said that, an issue or two with the Polo is probably easier to live with than the compromise I would have needed to make with other cars in this price range.

                Thanks for raising the issue; enjoy you TSI!
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                • #9
                  Here's a recent South Africa post. The uk car delivers less power because of an extra filter, and the recent DPF upgrade cured his hiccup - he reconned the uk extra filter is killing the little dub. So should not be an issue here...but ask your dealer about the upgrade to the filter controller...
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                  • #10
                    all this nonsense..... i would have thought the oldest prank in the book (sticking a banana/potato in the tailpipe of a car) and the result would be lesson 1 in automotive engineering 101.
                    DPF
                    for the benefit of us all, can everyone just try to ignore the generally harmless soot in future? DPF's are becoming a classic example of public opinion causing ridiculous engineering solutions to fit a problem that has hardly any real negative consequences. (ESPECIALLY when you consider how fuel efficient the engine could be without the darned DPF)
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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the further information.

                      Just one more query though; you said that the UK car has less power than us; there website quotes 90PS which roughly equates to 66KW which we are quoted, is there something else I am not aware of that we get?
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                      • #12
                        I read on the SA site that the UK one comes in at 63KW - but cannot see it for myself on the UK VW site. Which incidentally certainly is selling the diesel. When i spoke with my dealer he said a town drive of circa 15km per day would see the soot build up, but as long as a weekend run which saw the car into the warmed up zone, and included some hills/work-out would be fine. They must know the soot build up is an issue cause he also said any dealer would clean the filter out FOC for a couple of turns.
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                        • #13
                          There are a lot of changes on the UK website; must be a bit going on in VW over there; they also removed some of the brochures.

                          Thanks for the further information, I will just make sure I take the car for a regular run on weekends somewhere a bit windy where it needs to rev a little more. I found some further info on some of the other forums confirming that there had been an ECU upgrade released which has solved the problem for a lot of people.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 77kw polo tdi View Post
                            any dealer would clean the filter out FOC for a couple of turns.
                            That only involves them sending one of their staff out to drive the car continully at 4000rpm for about 20 minutes so you can easily do it yourself.

                            Originally posted by William_Foster View Post
                            I found some further info on some of the other forums confirming that there had been an ECU upgrade released which has solved the problem for a lot of people.
                            Can you post some links? I'd love to know the details of what's been done.
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                            • #15
                              I really don't want to sound rude, but why must we buy such new cars?
                              Wait a few years for all the issues to be discovered and/or fixed or buy an already proven car.
                              Making little engines make so much power/torque and use no fuel.....
                              MK2 - *Insert list of dealer purchased extra's/standard features here*
                              80 series - The MK2's BIG, Sooty, polar opposite...
                              HAHAHA

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