Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 - Tempe Tyres Sydney - 225/40/18 - $250

[Martin]

Tempe Tyres are letting these go at a very good price right now
(They are not old tyres - mine are week 45 of 2012)
You can buy them off eBay and get them delivered or pick them up in person and have them fitted for free

While I love my Michelin PS3 tyres, have a stage2 ECU which gives me problems putting the power down
I really wanted to try these tyres and see if they are better and make my power more usable

From the reviews to date, you would not expect them to last the same amount of km as the Michelin PS3

[Diesel_vert]

Without getting into road-legal track tyres, I think you'll have to step up to a set of what Tire Rack call, 'Extreme Performance Summer' tyres (i.e. road tyres with a heavy emphasis on dry grip/handling), such as the Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 or Potenza RE-11A.

Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 : Tire Rack

Otherwise, the Michelin Pilot Super Sport is probably considered to be best in class when it comes to performance road tyres (excluding the 'Extreme Performance Summer' tyre category).

[Martin]

Thanks for bringing the RE-11 to my attention - I was not aware of it

Most tests I've read rate the Goodyear F1 A2 above the Michelin PS3 on outright performance
but the Michelin PS3 wins out on wear rate (km) and value for money
They are both in the same class for sure.

I only purhased 2 of these Goodyear F1 A2 tires to experience them for myself
Given they were $50 cheaper than my PS3's I don't mine if they wear out quick

Clearly, the next candidate will be the RE-11
It does frustrate me when the traction control kicks in
It's terrible in the wet, torque steers all over the road - but that's ok, I calm down and don't bother in the wet

[Martin]

Erk - problem - the USA RE-11 is completely different to what is on the Bridgestone AU web site

The Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 is Bridgestone’s premium performance tyre strictly for circuit use. One of the major features this tyre provides is the compatibility with dry grip and drainage performance by embracing seamless stealth pattern design.

[Martin]

Looks like that USA RE-11 is what we know as the RE002

[ATYPIC]

Erk - problem - the USA RE-11 is completely different to what is on the Bridgestone AU web site

That is the RE11S...the Bridgestone website has the S missing in the description. They are super expensive!!

Below is the actual RE11...there is also the RE11A.

Potenza RE-11 Extreme Performance Tire | Bridgestone Tires

2 X 275-30-19 2753019 BRIDGESTONE POTENZA RE-11 TYRES *BRAND NEW* | eBay

[ATYPIC]

Looks like that USA RE-11 is what we know as the RE002

Not the same tyre.

[Diesel_vert]

Most tests I've read rate the Goodyear F1 A2 above the Michelin PS3 on outright performance
but the Michelin PS3 wins out on wear rate (km) and value for money
They are both in the same class for sure.

Consensus has the Michelin Pilot Super Sport as the superior performance tyre than either the Michelin Pilot Sport 3 or Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2.

All three tyres compete in the same category.

It does frustrate me when the traction control kicks in
It's terrible in the wet, torque steers all over the road - but that's ok, I calm down and don't bother in the wet

Even racing tyres are not immune to wheelspin and/or loss of traction. With increases in power comes the need to regulate the throttle input in a more precise manner. This needs to be mastered in order to maximise traction and minimise intervention by the vehicle's traction control system.

Erk - problem - the USA RE-11 is completely different to what is on the Bridgestone AU web site

ATYPIC is correct. That's actually a photo of the Potenza RE-11S.

Looks like that USA RE-11 is what we know as the RE002

Again, ATYPIC is correct. The RE-11 and RE002 are two completely different tyres and compete in different categories.

[Martin]

Thanks Diesel - great input...

[gareth_oau]

the latest Motor magazine tyre test rated the Asym2 2nd overall, and best in the wet. with the Pirelli Pzero no. 1.

Motor has stated in the past that tyre models vary in performance from size to size.

i've got Asym 1 on my RS4 and had Asym 2 on my S3 and both are brilliant.

deisel-vert, technically you may be correct that one brand is better than another, but I could probably find half a dozen different test with different results.

but for the half a dozen top shelf tyres that typically get tested, I suspect there arent many drivers on this forum that could really tell the difference.

What I can advise about the Asym2s aside from performance is:

1/ they have a massive rim protector on them so they provide better rim protection than other tyres
2/ the rim protector gives the appearance thet they are almost 20mm wider than reality and gives the appearance of a little bit of stretch.

[Martin]

I suspect there arent many drivers on this forum that could really tell the difference

Agree - I am totally happy with the Michelin PS3 from a handling point of view
I'm just searching for a bit more grip so I can use available power for acceleration from low speed

What I can advise about the Asym2s aside from performance is:

1/ they have a massive rim protector on them so they provide better rim protection than other tyres
2/ the rim protector gives the appearance thet they are almost 20mm wider than reality and gives the appearance of a little bit of stretch.

The Michelin PS3 is somewhat like that also - not by 20mm but same theme

[Diesel_vert]

but for the half a dozen top shelf tyres that typically get tested, I suspect there arent many drivers on this forum that could really tell the difference.

I would agree with that, except that modified vehicles can highlight some characteristics that would otherwise go unnoticed.

deisel-vert, technically you may be correct that one brand is better than another

I don't recall stating that.

What I can say is, that in terms of performance, the Michelin PSS is considered to be best tyre on the market (within the same category, so exclude the likes of the Bridgestone RE-11), superior than Michelin's own PS3 and the Goodyear F1A2.

That's not to say the Goodyear F1A2 is a poor tyre - in fact, far from it, we are talking the cream of the crop here - but the Michelin PSS is the creamiest of them all.

but I could probably find half a dozen different test with different results.

That's true. The final result and ranking depends on how each of the various metrics are weighed - some of which may or may not be relevant depending on the reader.

In isolation however, the performance of the Michelin PSS in areas of grip, handling, response, traction, etc are impressive. Or about as impressive as a normal road tyre gets, because it's not the only game in town (see RE-11).

[nat225]

Looks like that USA RE-11 is what we know as the RE002

andrenalin RE002 = budget performance made in indonesia as sold at costco

potenza re-11 = same class as advan neova ad08 = expensive and made in japan

michelin pss made in usa (225 40 1 n grip is very close to ad08:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/michelin-pilot-super-sport-page-10

[drc13]

Re: Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 - Tempe Tyres Sydney - 225/40/18 - $250

Thanks for the heads up Martin, just had 4 of them fitted this afternoon.

Was tossing up between the F1s and michelin PSS from tirerack but this deal made the decision for me.

Mine seem to be mid 30s 2012 tires which isnt as good as yours but still fine.

[Martin]

I have to say, and remember I'm running a StageII ECU, the Michelin PS3 has the wood on the Eagle F1 off the line

Also, the Michelin PS3 is generaly more quiet than the Eagle F1