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if they're flat backed an have a reasonable size centre bore, they can probs be redrilled. if they're scalloped you'll have to get filled and drilled which is alot more expensive for 5 holes, compared to a simple redrill
Ah, would you happen to know if 16" BBS RS wheels with 5x114.3 could be just redrilled to 5x100? Or if anyone with BBS RS's could chime in on whether the centre bore is big enough for this.
Also, could someone just give me a rough price range on fill and redrill please.
Oh, I think I know what you mean, 5x100 holes are closer in to the centre than 114.3 so the holes may, uh, "overlap" into the centre bore? Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by it cutting into the thread of the centre cap, do the caps have certain patterns as well? Sorry, really new to all these stud patterns and fitment. Would this mean that all mk3's with rs's are running adapters?
hey mate, just because im around..... (but i am FFAARR from an expert on this- WABIT is the acknowledged wheel hoare on VWA, haha).
yes.... 5x100 would be closer to the center bore.... caps/ bores dont necessarily have patterns, so much as sizes.
for many recent VW cars, the center bore would be 57.1mm, and that would ideally be the size of each hole you see at the center of each wheel in your pic above.
as far as i know, many mk3's with bbs rs's do not run adaptors, nor have they been re drilled.... the guys simply have the patience and resources/ hook ups to source the right parts, to build their (non-daily) wheels themselves...
but dont be surprised if i get corrected- each section of these cars (be it mechanical, suspension geometry, wheels/tyres, electronic remapping, in car entertainment, detailing etc) has their own group of enthusiasts within VWA.... there's lots of knowledge on here.
Those wheels, were they off an FC RX7? My mate had a very similar set (size and colour), and I was thinking about doing it when he was selling them. These would have a ~66mm centrebore as well (which is redrillable). What's the RS model number on these babies? You can find out by reading in between the lug holes.
Dom's right, redrilling to 5x100 will more than likely drill into the centrecap thread. In your pictures, notice the big middle hole with the threads where the centre collars and the big hex caps screw onto? A proper 5x100 redrill may drill through it.
But then again, these 16's seem to have the smaller centres - these use a different centre collar and smaller diameter threaded hex cap (~56mm versus ~70mm for the larger centres). So you might get away with a 5x100 redrill.
It's best to take it out to a wheel specialist to have a look-see and find out what your options are; at the same time you'll get a quote for redrilling. If at the end it comes to having to use adapters, I'd suggest giving these wheels up as they're not the best specs to run adapters with.
I redrilled a set of onepiece bbs this week.
They were 5x114 and had a flat back, so there was room for the extra set of 5 holes.
Pics of front and rear of wheels
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Aah, I see now. Thanks Rayray and Golf Loon, that really cleared it up for me.
And I found out that one pair has 60mm and the other has 70mm centre bore and they aren't flat backed. So that means they won't be redrillable because the new holes would go into the thread, yes?
And with adapters, is it true that they are legal if they are bolted to the hub?
Thanks so much for the replies so far.
Oh and I don't know what they are off atm, rayray. The centre bore might answer your question though.
Last edited by b0k1; 02-11-2010, 05:27 PM.
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As was said before, they aren't the friendliest of sizes for adapters. 7s aren't wide, but ET33 leaves a 15mm, 20mm and 25mm adapter (H&R ones from ECS for example). You can get adaptec speedware to make them to your spec aso (price is around the %500 AUD mark for all hardware I think).
I have ET23 wheels, and have 20mm adapters on them (final ET3). And a 7" wide wheel. You will need 165 tyre's if you have any amount of low.
I think if you want RS's, get the smallest adapters you can (15mm all round, Final ET of 1 and then play around with lip sizes to bring the lip out flush/poke. (I'm not familiar with building RS's though)...
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