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Is it worth amplifying stock RCD510 speakers?

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  • Is it worth amplifying stock RCD510 speakers?

    I'm buying a sub and amp for my mk6 gti and wondered if I should bother getting a 5 channel amp or just a mono block.

    The rcd510 only pumps out 20w from what I've read so thought giving the fronts a bit more power might help?

    Thoughts?

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    I'm running a 12" Rockford Punch P1 with a mono block amp and it sounds great with the stock speakers. If you want louder/clearer speakers id say save money that you'd spend on an amp and replace the stocks with the Focal Mk6 speakers, I spoke the the Vic Focal rep just the other day and he said they're leaps and bounds better than the stocks and they're plug and play with a standard head unit and for the price (under $600) well worth it.
    2011 Mk6 Golf 77TSI CW | 12" Rockford Fosgate Subwoofer | RCD510 | Golf .:R MFSW | GTI Rear Bumper | GTI Tail Lights | Mk6 GTI Exhaust



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    • #3
      Really a 12"?!?
      I was told by an installer that a 12" would be far too much for the stock system in terms of it taking over.
      What your overall sound balance like?
      Is it just all bass?

      I was looking at the shallow mount kicker comp rt 8". Really tiny box which will still allow me to use my boot.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by VRN510 View Post
        I'm running a 12" Rockford Punch P1 with a mono block amp and it sounds great with the stock speakers. If you want louder/clearer speakers id say save money that you'd spend on an amp and replace the stocks with the Focal Mk6 speakers, I spoke the the Vic Focal rep just the other day and he said they're leaps and bounds better than the stocks and they're plug and play with a standard head unit and for the price (under $600) well worth it.
        There's actually a YouTube guide by Focal which walks you through the install. The kit even provides the removal tools.

        So if you're that way inclined, it's definitely an easy upgrade option.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by zoonosis View Post
          Really a 12"?!?
          I was told by an installer that a 12" would be far too much for the stock system in terms of it taking over.
          What your overall sound balance like?
          Is it just all bass?

          I was looking at the shallow mount kicker comp rt 8". Really tiny box which will still allow me to use my boot.
          My sub is perfect in my opinion, as well as the opinion of my passengers. The Rockford's come with a bass controller that i have wired into my cubby hole (next to driver door under steering wheel) so i can adjust the sub to be louder or quieter. I will be doing the Focal install myself with a friend of mine, it is really simple and after hearing the Focal reps car, as well as the Alpine Scirocco and Rockford Fosgate Golf GTI - speaker upgrades are a great improvement, although the stock speakers aren't half bad. I will take a photo of my boot to show you what space I have with the 12".
          2011 Mk6 Golf 77TSI CW | 12" Rockford Fosgate Subwoofer | RCD510 | Golf .:R MFSW | GTI Rear Bumper | GTI Tail Lights | Mk6 GTI Exhaust



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          • #6
            All up my gear was $395 on sale, and I paid $120 for an installer to come to my house and install it in my garage.
            Last edited by VRN510; 26-11-2013, 03:53 PM.
            2011 Mk6 Golf 77TSI CW | 12" Rockford Fosgate Subwoofer | RCD510 | Golf .:R MFSW | GTI Rear Bumper | GTI Tail Lights | Mk6 GTI Exhaust



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            • #7
              You're right on the stock speakers, for what they are they're pretty good.

              Thanks for the pics btw.

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              • #8
                Yeah I saw that focal YouTube video. Pity they don't have a kit that has rear speakers in them too. Just changing the fronts seems a bit strange.

                They seem quite expensive but I guess I would have to hear them first to make up my mind.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zoonosis View Post
                  Yeah I saw that focal YouTube video. Pity they don't have a kit that has rear speakers in them too. Just changing the fronts seems a bit strange.

                  They seem quite expensive but I guess I would have to hear them first to make up my mind.
                  With a good set of fronts and subs, the rear act purely as "fill", so wouldn't waste time and money on them. You want the majority of the sound stage coming the front, the old 6x9's on the parcel tray are yester-year. If running off the headunit, it'd be worth considering a high pass filter if the head unit doesn't offer that. Essentially removing sub 80-120hz sound from the speakers will protect em from base and allow for more volume, cleanly. Your sub will pick up the lower tones.

                  I run a shallow mount Option Audio 12" off a precision power amp with the factory (polo) speakers ran off a pioneer indash satnav head unit, which has the high pass filters. RE sub over ruling the rest, as suggested, just adjust the gains on the amp and lower the bass boost on the head unit to protect the speakers, while running the sub for those tones.
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                  • #10
                    Some more wise words, thanks.
                    I'll have to see if my RCD510 has a high pass filter. Not sure.

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                    • #11
                      +1 what seangti said. The stock fronts are the weak link. With a sub and amp, don't waste your cash on the rears.

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                      • #12
                        Is it worth amplifying stock RCD510 speakers?

                        Originally posted by zoonosis View Post
                        Yeah I saw that focal YouTube video. Pity they don't have a kit that has rear speakers in them too. Just changing the fronts seems a bit strange.

                        They seem quite expensive but I guess I would have to hear them first to make up my mind.
                        You can get the Focal's from Carbon Car Systems in Sydney for a little over $400. Cheapest place by far.

                        Use coupon code VWCLUBWIN to take another $59 off

                        Last edited by Lucas_R; 26-11-2013, 07:39 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
                          You can get the Focal's from Carbon Car Systems in Sydney for a little over $400. Cheapest place by far.

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                          My lord thats cheap, guess coilovers can wait a little longer
                          2011 Mk6 Golf 77TSI CW | 12" Rockford Fosgate Subwoofer | RCD510 | Golf .:R MFSW | GTI Rear Bumper | GTI Tail Lights | Mk6 GTI Exhaust



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                          • #14
                            Is it worth amplifying stock RCD510 speakers?

                            Originally posted by VRN510 View Post
                            My lord thats cheap, guess coilovers can wait a little longer
                            See coupon code info added to my previous post. Save another $59
                            Last edited by Lucas_R; 26-11-2013, 07:39 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
                              See coupon code info added to my previous post. Save another $50
                              You're hurting my wallet man
                              2011 Mk6 Golf 77TSI CW | 12" Rockford Fosgate Subwoofer | RCD510 | Golf .:R MFSW | GTI Rear Bumper | GTI Tail Lights | Mk6 GTI Exhaust



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