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Petition to VWA to enable TMC in next map update for RNS510/Columbus

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  • Petition to VWA to enable TMC in next map update for RNS510/Columbus

    Hi All,

    I have started to setup an online petition to see if we can encourage VWA to provide access to Intelematic's FM band Traffic Message Channel in the next map update.
    This function has been available for years in Europe, yet we in Australia are not able to make use of advanced routing based on traffic info.
    Think what you may of the usefulness of this function but I don't believe anyone got a discount on their expensive navigation system because not all functions work in Australia...

    The petition is available at:
    Petition Traffic Message Channel on VW/Skoda navigation systems in Australia

    This is a first draft only if anyone has any suggestions to improve the wording of the petition please feel free to let me know.

    Please publicise this widely to try and get as many signatories as possible.

    Thanks
    Last edited by kamold; 07-07-2013, 06:09 PM. Reason: Corrections, link to TMC on wikipedia
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    Signed, hopefully they integrate this as it is long overdue.
    When it comes standard on low spec cars it should be available in the premium market.
    My Tiguan TSI APR Stg2 + RPF1's

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    • #3
      Signed.
      Suggestion can you add a link to an image or two to show what people are missing. Some of our VWW forum friends may not have seen it in action in other countries.

      Originally posted by kamold View Post
      Hi All,

      I have started to setup an online petition to see if we can encourage VWA to provide access to Intellimatic's FM band Traffic Management Program in the next map update.
      This function has been available for years in Europe, yet we in Australia are not able to make use advanced of routing based on traffic info.
      Think what you may of the usefulness of this function but I don't believe anyone got a discount on their expensive navigation system because not all functions work in Australia...

      The petition is available at:
      Petition Traffic Management Program on VW/Skoda navigation systems in Australia

      This is a first draft only if anyone has any suggestions to improve the wording of the petition please feel free to let me know.

      Please publicise this widely to try and get as many signatories as possible.

      Thanks
      MY18 GOLF 110TSI I HIGHLINE I Indium I Panoramic Sunroof I DAP I IP
      MY18 TIGUAN 162TSI I R-LINE I Ruby I DAP I IP

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      • #4
        Re: Petition to VWA to enable TMC in next map update for RNS510/Columbus

        Originally posted by sVWatt View Post
        Signed.
        Suggestion can you add a link to an image or two to show what people are missing. Some of our VWW forum friends may not have seen it in action in other countries.
        Good suggestion I will do that over the weekend.

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        • #5
          You might start by spelling the name right — Intelematics — but so far the Suna system doesn't seem to work all that well here.

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          • #6
            Signed.
            Great initiative.
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            • #7
              Re: Petition to VWA to enable TMC in next map update for RNS510/Columbus

              Originally posted by Idle View Post
              You might start by spelling the name right — Intelematics — but so far the Suna system doesn't seem to work all that well here.
              Thank you I will correct the speeling when I can.
              As I mentioned in the post this isn't about a discussion of Suna's product. Lets leave that for when we can sample it for ourselves like we should be able to...

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              2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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              • #8
                I can see why you would want it but I did find this snippet -
                Intelematics Australia[12] broadcasts a national encrypted RDS-TMC service focused initially on urban Australia under the brand 'SUNA Traffic Channel'. The service reaches around 85% of urban Australia, using commercial FM broadcasters in seven cities, as well as via XML for online and smartphone applications. The service is available on GPS navigation systems including Navman, Garmin, Mio, Uniden, iPhone (Navigon & Sygic), Eclipse, Pioneer, Alpine and Clarion. SUNA Traffic Channel is also available in Ford, Holden, Toyota, Nissan, Subaru and Mercedes Benz navigation systems. SUNA is currently the only source of comprehensive, metropolitan congestion monitoring content in Australia – proprietary technology interfaces to traffic light control systems. The SUNA broadcast service is fully compliant with both RDS and TMC. However, since the broadcast is encrypted it does not work on in-car GPS navigation systems that do not have a commercial arrangement with SUNA.
                which might mean that its not included because VWA would have to pay for licenses to use the service.... of course we (the VW customers) have all paid for it anyway, as you say.... but the way VWA seem to serve their customers may indicate that its more likely they would only bother if it didnt cost them anything.
                Last edited by gldgti; 05-07-2013, 05:20 PM.
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                • #9
                  Re: Petition to VWA to enable TMC in next map update for RNS510/Columbus

                  Yes vwa would have to reach a licensing agreement to be able to use a decryption key. This would be part of the cost of the update.

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                  • #10
                    Signed kamold. Let's hope a daily newspaper doesn't have to get involved in this issue.......
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kamold View Post
                      Thank you I will correct the speeling when I can.
                      As I mentioned in the post this isn't about a discussion of Suna's product. Lets leave that for when we can sample it for ourselves like we should be able to...
                      What I meant was that in Australia Telematics are implementing the SUNA system, and it seems to be all too often far behind actual traffic events, so you wind up in the same traffic jam whether you have it or not.

                      It seems the Euro and US systems are much more efficient.

                      I'll still sign the petition, tho' — and best of luck (IMHO you'll need it...)

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                      • #12
                        Hey kamold,

                        Signed the petition no problem. Good luck with this - hope it works. If it doesn't the only other option would be to obtain that mythical CD_7703...

                        - Anthony.
                        VW Tiguan 110TSI Life | Tungsten Silver

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                        • #13
                          RE: Petition to VWA to enable TMC in next map update for RNS510/Columbus

                          I have a tmc tick box but don't get info for anything due to my location. My local stations don't even transmit the normal text of the city stations. Currently, I have fw5218 and coded the DVD to region 0 with some expensive hardware and software I bought.

                          So what I am trying to say is, does anyone in the cities have the 5218 firmware that can clarify if it does or doesn't work for station ID, current song selection and TMC.
                          Last edited by greg32; 06-07-2013, 10:44 AM. Reason: Not enough info when I wass using my phone to make a post
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                          • #14
                            Signed.

                            Thanks kamold. Good work as always mate.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Petition to VWA to enable TMC in next map update for RNS510/Columbus

                              Originally posted by greg32 View Post
                              I have a tmc tick box but don't get info for anything due to my location. My local stations don't even transmit the normal text of the city stations. Currently, I have fw5218 and coded the DVD to region 0 with some expensive hardware and software I bought.

                              So what I am trying to say is, does anyone in the cities have the 5218 firmware that can clarify if it does or doesn't work for station ID, current song selection and TMC.
                              Tmc is only for traffic info. We could only receive it if vw had licensed the correct decryption key from Suna.

                              Rds displays song and station info.
                              This is available and working with firmware 4120 and above. This is not encrypted so works for any station that transmits this data.

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