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Auto-Polar FIS+ Advanced - Complete Guide

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    All good now went to my mechanic and he used a ball joint pulley to take it off, he said vw are a PITA to do simple things like this.

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    • Auto-Polar FIS+ Advanced - Complete Guide

      Not all good after all, reinstalled the wiper arm and then realizing
      I put the left on the right and right on the left lol now can't get them off till tomorrow when my mechanic shop is open lol

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      • Originally posted by Orrgazmo1986 View Post
        Not all good after all, reinstalled the wiper arm and then realizing
        I put the left on the right and right on the left lol now can't get them off till tomorrow when my mechanic shop is open lol


        ....but did you get it working?

        2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

        2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
        2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
        2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
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        • Auto-Polar FIS+ Advanced - Complete Guide

          Might also go down to the local supercheap to see if I can source the control arm removal tool thingy. If its not too pricey will buy one, so if anyone is reading this in the Newcastle area and needing to borrow it I am more than happy to give you a hand or you can borrow the tool too. Still playing around with the parameter options. What do other people set (screen1, 3 etc)? Also what's the best way to measure boost etc

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          • Originally posted by Orrgazmo1986 View Post
            Might also go down to the local supercheap to see if I can source the control arm removal tool thingy. If its not too pricey will buy one, so if anyone is reading this in the Newcastle area and needing to borrow it I am more than happy to give you a hand or you can borrow the tool too. Still playing around with the parameter options. What do other people set (screen1, 3 etc)? Also what's the best way to measure boost etc
            Good to hear you got it going after all that.

            I have 5 screens set up. First screen has speed, RPM, fuel litres and oil temp, which I use most of the time. Then I have one screen with temps, one with torque/power, one with boost parameters and the last with a mix of others.

            For details on the boost parameters please refer earlier post: Boost Pressure - Detailed Information

            The boost data (and in fact all the engine parameters) is taken from the ECU and not a separate boost tap. So you'll only get the measurements from the existing sensors.

            2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

            2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
            2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
            2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
            - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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            • Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
              Reposting here from the AutoPolar forum - hopefully this makes some sense:


              TURBO PRESSURE parameter (extend info)

              Hi to all AutoPolar users,

              Due to receiving questions about this parameter, we will provide an explanation to try to clear all doubts.
              If you have any other questions, please post all your concerns, and we will complete this FAQ.


              How do I need to configure my PolarFIS to read turbo pressure correctly??

              To make a proper turbo reading pressure, normally is not necessary to configure anything in your PolarFIS unit.
              There is a configuration inside the unit that automatically selects the best option.
              However, there's a few models in which this automatic function doesn't work correctly.
              This guide will help you to identify if this is the case for you.

              These are available options in the pressure configution menu:

              - AUTOMATIC : PolarFIS will select the best option for your vehicle automatically. RECOMMENDED !! (by default)
              - INFORT X1 : To obtain the turbo pressure from the infortainment bus.
              - INFORT X2 : To obtain the turbo pressure from the infortainment bus. The reading is multiplied by 2 (only vehicles in which the bus only shows half pressure).
              - DIAGNOSIS : To obtain the turbo pressure from the diagnostics bus, for vehicles that the other options don't work.


              What values does the PolarFIS show in my screen ?? I not have idea ...

              The value that PolarFIS displays is the result of substracting the barometric pressure from the boost pressure read from the bus.
              This is due to the boost pressure sensor indicating the absolute pressure (BOOST+BAROMETRIC)


              But, sometimes I see negative values, why does this happen??

              Normally with the engine at idle, there must be some vacuum in the intake manifold, so tehe pressure reading will be negative (around -5 to -15 mbar or -0.07 to -0.2 PSI), this is normal.
              However, in some models there's no negative readings and with engine at idle the reading is 0 mbar or PSI, we can't do anything about this because the data is read directly from the Diagnostics bus of the engine ecu.

              A small negative reading as indicated is normal, however if you have a reading less than -100 mbar or -1.4 PSI it means that boost is not reading correctly.

              In that case, you must enter in the Polar FIS configuration menu, and select SCREEN->VISUALIZATION->ADVANCED->BOOST OPTIONS and choose the option INFORT. x2.

              This is due to in some cars, pressure read from infortainment is divided by 2.

              If the problem persists or you have no reading of boost pressure, enter in the same menu and choose DIAGNOSTICS option.
              Yeah I had found that but didn't explain which one is requested vs actual (with or without !)... pretty sure it's without.

              Also saw boost hit 23+ PSI at a glance last night...

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              • Originally posted by Ferni View Post
                Yeah I had found that but didn't explain which one is requested vs actual (with or without !)... pretty sure it's without.

                Also saw boost hit 23+ PSI at a glance last night...
                Requested is the "!boost" from memory.

                2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                • Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
                  Requested is the "!boost" from memory.
                  I concur.
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                  • My unit died this weekend - blue tooth would not work, left hand steering wheel buttons would not work, navigation would commence as per usual but no voice instructions during the journey and if you missed a turn there is no route recalculation - plus the entire RNS shuts down every ~20 minutes

                    Removing the Auto Polar FIS solved the problem (it was warm when I removed it)

                    It's a little disappointing, not even 12 months old

                    (So glad to have hands free phone working again)
                    2012.1 Skoda Octavia VRS DSG Wagon - Carbonio cold air intake and pipe - HPA Motorsports BBK 355mm rotors 6 pot calipers
                    APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
                    APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
                    Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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                    • Originally posted by Martin View Post
                      My unit died this weekend - blue tooth would not work, left hand steering wheel buttons would not work, navigation would commence as per usual but no voice instructions during the journey and if you missed a turn there is no route recalculation - plus the entire RNS shuts down every ~20 minutes

                      Removing the Auto Polar FIS solved the problem (it was warm when I removed it)

                      It's a little disappointing, not even 12 months old

                      (So glad to have hands free phone working again)
                      Is it dead or did it just get locked? Power cycle will generally solve this.

                      2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                      2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                      2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                      2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                      - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                      • remove the fuse. had a similar issue last weekend.

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                        • Three ways to reset the FIS+:
                          1. Pull the connector off the FIS+ module and reconnect
                          2. Pull the fuse (F24) from under the hood
                          3. Disconnect the battery

                          I do the first as I have easy access to the module/connector.

                          If you ever have the problem where your radio does not switch off when you remove your key then you know that the FIS+ firmware has crashed.

                          If this ever happens, please make sure you reset the FIS+ and ensure radio powers off before leaving your vehicle as otherwise you may well come back to a flat battery.

                          Generally the later firmware versions are more stable (i.e. known bugs have been fixed). Though I am aware that some BT units can send commands/characters which upset the FIS+ (certainly used to be the case at least).
                          Last edited by tigger73; 07-10-2013, 06:06 PM.

                          2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                          2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                          2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                          2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
                          - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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                          • I removed the battery. that way, everything gets a reboot.

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                            • Dam - I didn't think about a power off reset - I just removed it from the car

                              Live and learn I guess
                              2012.1 Skoda Octavia VRS DSG Wagon - Carbonio cold air intake and pipe - HPA Motorsports BBK 355mm rotors 6 pot calipers
                              APR Stage II ECU - APR 3" exhaust down pipe & high flow catalyst
                              APR/HP Roll bars - Eibach springs and Bilstien shocks
                              Supaloy lower control arms - Enkei 18*8 Wheels

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                              • also might be worth performing a reset. not factory reset, but the user settings reset thing.

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