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  • #16
    Ok so I had a quick at this today.
    6RD 035 187 B running sw 5314 in a B6 Passat with highline RVC controller.

    The issue is that the head unit actually tries to talk to the RVC module, but the RVC has incompatible software and logs a fault saying as much.

    So unfortunately the RCD330 will not work with older highline modules.
    What needs to happen is the highline module needs to be bypassed, so that the composite video signal from the camera itself is fed straight to the RCD330 video input. No RGBS converters, no highline bending guidelines.

    The only other solutions I can think of are:
    Replace the highline module with a 7N0 module from an MY16 Tiguan (which I have done in my car connected to my Discover Media). This involves running a new harness from the boot to behind the head unit as the cabling is different.

    See if there is a software solution - the RCD330G software would require an update to support older RVC control modules such as the 3C9 907 441. There is no later software for the RVC module than sw 20. This is a pretty long shot but perhaps it has been done.
    2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
    2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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    • #17
      Sorry for slow reply to say thanks - been snowed under at work.

      Thanks for working it out even though the answer isn't what I'd like.

      Having been without a camera for over a month I'm ready to give up bending guidelines for a working camera.

      So it seems like it may be easier to buy a replacement cvbs camera and run a new wire rather than try to make a cable that plugs into the existing camera. There are some that have bending guidelines using what I assume is an inertia sensor so that might even be worth a shot.

      Cheers

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      • #18
        If I kept the factory camera, presumably I wouldn't need a delay relay though... Any idea?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by bravo View Post
          If I kept the factory camera, presumably I wouldn't need a delay relay though... Any idea?
          More than likely not, I believe it should delay itself anyway. I'm keen to see if there will be a software update for this if a lot of a people are having the same problems.

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          • #20
            [QUOTE=ZantetsukenJ;1257152]More than likely not, I believe it should delay itself anyway. I'm keen to see if there will be a software update for this if a lot of a people are having the same problems.

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            Hi Gents

            Please will you keep us updated in case you hear about any software updates

            Thanks

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            • #21
              [QUOTE=McAllstar;1260366]
              Originally posted by ZantetsukenJ View Post
              More than likely not, I believe it should delay itself anyway. I'm keen to see if there will be a software update for this if a lot of a people are having the same problems.

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              Hi Gents

              Please will you keep us updated in case you hear about any software updates

              Thanks
              Hi!

              ive Also had this problem. I have a golf 6 tdi with lowline camera.
              bought this adapter and now it works!
              Caraudio-Systems | RGB-03CAM-N

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              • #22
                How much was that?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ZantetsukenJ View Post
                  How much was that?

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                  Bought it through a swedish company, i paid 80EUR.
                  dont know IF that is the actual price, got that ”alibaba converter” at first, but since it didnt work thet got my this converter instead

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                  • #24
                    Would something like this work for the older model highline camera?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by btuned View Post
                      Would something like this work for the older model highline camera?

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                      Nope won't work.
                      The issue is not with the video conversion.
                      The issue is the RCD330G can see the highline RVC module, but doesn't know how to talk to it.
                      It might know how to talk to a 7N0 Tiguan highline camera module perhaps, I could test this in my car but I don't have an RCD330.
                      2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
                      2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by kamold View Post
                        Nope won't work.
                        The issue is not with the video conversion.
                        The issue is the RCD330G can see the highline RVC module, but doesn't know how to talk to it.
                        It might know how to talk to a 7N0 Tiguan highline camera module perhaps, I could test this in my car but I don't have an RCD330.
                        Ok thanks for the info. Seems like im stuck with either forgoing having a RVC or buying an aftermarket one.

                        For reference i have a 2010 Mk6 GTI with the OEM highline (pretty sure it is given the yellow lines and dynamic movement) RVC.

                        Edit: Just thinking out loud - would I be able to change just the camera in the Logo to an aftermarket that would be able to talk to the RCD330 and therefore allowing me to keep the flip badge function? Not sure if something like that exists. What would the requirements be for the camera to be able to interact?
                        Last edited by btuned; 03-05-2018, 01:52 PM.

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                        • #27
                          If someone in Sydney can supply me with an RCD330 to test (ie just take it out of their car and put it in mine, only need a few mins to test it) we can determine if the 7N0 RVC module might be a workable solution
                          2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
                          2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by kamold View Post
                            If someone in Sydney can supply me with an RCD330 to test (ie just take it out of their car and put it in mine, only need a few mins to test it) we can determine if the 7N0 RVC module might be a workable solution
                            I may be ordering one soon - was just trying to see options around this RVC problem. Thankfully ordering an aftermarket RVC isnt too expensive but still not ideal given i have a perfectly functioning OEM flip badge RVC.

                            I'll let you know when i get one over and would be great to see if you would be able to help out. Is the theory that if that the RVC modlue works then it would be simply replacing the Golf's OEM module with the 7N0 so that the camera can "talk" to the head unit (like this: Page Not Found - Aliexpress.com Would you need the RGB to AV adaptor as well or any other adaptor for that matter?

                            Thanks for taking the time to respond.

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                            • #29
                              The 7N0 camera module would not need a converter, as it outputs composite video, which the RCD330 and MQB head units use.
                              It would require running a new harness from the boot to the head unit but the end result would be a fully functional highline camera.
                              This is of course only if the RCD330 knows how to talk to the module. I had to replace my older highline module (the same as what you have) in order to get highline camera functionality in my Discover Media...so with any luck it will be the same.

                              Aftermarket cameras are very cheap. There are even some that use an internal accelerometer to produce bending guidelines....have never seen one in use so no idea how they compare to the proper highline module which uses steering angle sensor data to build the trajectory lines, and is properly calibrated.
                              2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
                              2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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                              • #30
                                I finally got my RVC working on my GTI MK6. Ended up being a dodgy adaptor, but also got told by another member to try the reverse wire from the plug for the RCD510. Lo and behold it worked.

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