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  • Alternator and Bracket for ABF

    Hi guys..

    I need an alternator and matching bracket from an ABF with no Aircon. Need to be able to post to newcastle.

    Cheers

    Mike
    TDI mk1 on the road!!


  • #2
    Originally posted by mollins View Post
    Hi guys..

    I need an alternator and matching bracket from an ABF with no Aircon. Need to be able to post to newcastle.

    Cheers

    Mike
    Isn't it the same bracket with or with out the a/c?

    I'm planning to delete the a/c off a 2E motor, I think all that's required is a shorter belt and a VR6 water pump pulley. (But I've been wrong before!)

    Pete
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    • #3
      not sure pete...

      needs to be like this


      alternator has tensioner built in as below


      its not for an ABF anyway.. its for a serpentine setup on a diesel and i need to clear the injector pump

      cheers

      mike
      TDI mk1 on the road!!

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      • #4
        another pic

        another pic to help

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        • #5
          Hmm, haven't looked at that setup before. I was going to leave the alternator up high.

          I think that pulley is the same as the VR6 one.

          That setup would be a needed for an ABA 8v head too I'd imagine.

          You've got me thinking now.

          Pete
          79 MK1 Golf Wreck to Race / 79 MK1 Golf The Red Thread / 76 MK1 Golf Kamei Race Car
          7? MK1 Caddy
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          • #6
            Originally posted by mollins View Post
            Hi guys..

            I need an alternator and matching bracket from an ABF with no Aircon. Need to be able to post to newcastle.

            Cheers

            Mike
            The 2E, AGG, ADY 2.0 8vs (Mk3) with no A/C use the same setup, just for reference - it's just that they're very rare down here.

            A lot of the yanks call the setup ABF-specific, but it isn't.

            All local ABFs had a/c, so to find the setup locally, you need to find a non-A/C Mk3 GL - I have a feeling only the early Mk3s with a 2E had the A/C option meaning your search locally is even harder!!

            I have a brand new one on my 1.6 engine, which I'll consider selling for the right price. PM me if you're interested

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            • #7
              Will they fit short block 16v's (KR specifically)? Looks like a good setup. That's what i'm after. Get the alt. away from the carbies.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Preen59 View Post
                Will they fit short block 16v's (KR specifically)? Looks like a good setup. That's what i'm after. Get the alt. away from the carbies.
                They fit all the 'traditional' 1.8 and 2.0 blocks and even the late model ones with some adaption (I've got one mocked up on my Lupo engine with a bit of plate alloy underneath)

                I also had to put one on my old ITB'd engine to clear the intake heatshield.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Valver. View Post
                  They fit all the 'traditional' 1.8 and 2.0 blocks and even the late model ones with some adaption (I've got one mocked up on my Lupo engine with a bit of plate alloy underneath)

                  I also had to put one on my old ITB'd engine to clear the intake heatshield.
                  Awesome. Where can i get one? You've obviously got in contact with somewhere that has them..

                  If Mollins doesn't want yours, let me know and i'll buy it for the right price.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah Valver is right. All 16v ABFs sold here had AC.
                    Its not a 8v or 16v Bracket, its an AC bracket or not with the ribbed belt setup.

                    The most common application for that setup down under is a 2L Transporter sold without AC, but with the ribbed alternator pulley. 1996/7 Onwards. Early vans have a v belt and metal brackets.

                    The alloy bracket part number is 028 903 143 AD.

                    There is a spring that goes with it to make the alternator tension, but you could use a bar setup for adjustment instead. I just used this same setup for a 20VT into a Mk1.

                    The waterpump pulley to suit this ribbed belt is 028 121 013 K.

                    Could you use the AC bracket and move the alternator, pivoting it forward from one of the boltholes and fixing it there to get around this problem?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Preen59 View Post
                      Awesome. Where can i get one? You've obviously got in contact with somewhere that has them..

                      If Mollins doesn't want yours, let me know and i'll buy it for the right price.
                      They're still available at the dealers down here (but for ridiculous money!!). I just had someone buy one in Europe for me and send it down most recently. Someone imports them in Yankland, too (where I got my first one) but his are rebadged OEX alternators as I later learned

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Golf Loon View Post
                        Yeah Valver is right. All 16v ABFs sold here had AC.
                        Its not a 8v or 16v Bracket, its an AC bracket or not with the ribbed belt setup.

                        The most common application for that setup down under is a 2L Transporter sold without AC, but with the ribbed alternator pulley. 1996/7 Onwards. Early vans have a v belt and metal brackets.

                        The alloy bracket part number is 028 903 143 AD.

                        There is a spring that goes with it to make the alternator tension, but you could use a bar setup for adjustment instead. I just used this same setup for a 20VT into a Mk1.

                        The waterpump pulley to suit this ribbed belt is 028 121 013 K.

                        Could you use the AC bracket and move the alternator, pivoting it forward from one of the boltholes and fixing it there to get around this problem?
                        That sounds like an idea. I'll get those parts possibly S/H and clean them up myself (New pulley though..).

                        And i'll get a S/H alternator and get my auto elec mate in town to reco it for me. He does a top job.

                        I'll get the old man on the job tomorrow to track some parts down for me.

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                        • #13
                          Bahn Brenner have the pulley, it seems dear though.



                          Pete
                          79 MK1 Golf Wreck to Race / 79 MK1 Golf The Red Thread / 76 MK1 Golf Kamei Race Car
                          7? MK1 Caddy
                          79 B1 Passat Dasher Project
                          12 Amarok

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Peter Jones View Post
                            Honestly Pete, i wonder if you know things about ME you shouldn't. You seem to know every bloody thing else! Thanks!

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                            • #15
                              Hmm.. I might just turn up an aluminium one.

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