MK7 Golf GTI/R Tuning Results

[Hooti3]

Hey all,

Just been browsing the net for any indication of potential tuning results for the new MK7 GTI/R.

Came across this from ABT. I thought it may be of interest to some!

We can see there's a fair bit of interest in a tune for the VW Golf VII GTI, so wanted to let you all know that we already offer a tune due to our unbeatable ties to Volkswagen Germany.

VW Golf VII GTI Tune:
STD - 169 kW (230 HP), 350 Nm
ABT - 221 kW (300 HP), 420 Nm

Our tune for the Golf VII R may be of interest too...

VW Golf VII R Tune:
STD - 221 kW (300 HP), 380 Nm
ABT - 272 kW (370 HP), 460 Nm

Naturally we offer tunes for earlier models too! See our website for more info.

Looks very promising, especially for R owners! 370BHP! DAMN!

Can't wait to see what APR, Veizu, etc etc come out with!

[mp2811]

I have read on APR facebook page that stage 1 tune will be over 300hp for GTI. No official numbers yet as still completing the tunes. 60+KW increase on stage 1 tunes is mighty impressive!

[team_v]

I have read on APR facebook page that stage 1 tune will be over 300hp for GTI. No official numbers yet as still completing the tunes. 60+KW increase on stage 1 tunes is mighty impressive!

I'd be very surprised if anyone got that level of power from a stage 1 tune on the GTI.
The Tiguan jumped 64kw with a tune but it ran a heavily detuned gti engine from the factory.

[Hooti3]

Stage 1 tune + CAI will likely see close to 300HP.

That doesn't seem to bad to me!

[mp2811]

Totally agree hooti! That's the way I'll go with my car in couple of years. Don't want to risk warranty too early.
MTM have similiar results on their site. Comparing the dyno graphs of the mk7 to MK6 it's massive improvement in power and torque delivery.

[Sharkie]

I'd be very surprised if anyone got that level of power from a stage 1 tune on the GTI.
The Tiguan jumped 64kw with a tune but it ran a heavily detuned gti engine from the factory.

I won't be too surprised Clay, MK7 runs a totally reworked 2.0TSI compared to the MK6 GTI and the Tiguans .... I'm calling it probable ....

[Dutch77]

Stage 1 tune + CAI will likely see close to 300HP.

If the Mk7 behaves anything like the Mk6 you'll be wanting tune and a bigger downpipe fitted - that's where the gains will be had. The CAI is marginal at best.

Having said that I do see some early claims from a few different tuning houses suggesting 300hp is achievable without major work.

We'll see.. should be some interesting developments.

[tigger73]

If the Mk7 behaves anything like the Mk6 you'll be wanting tune and a bigger downpipe fitted - that's where the gains will be had. The CAI is marginal at best.

Having said that I do see some early claims from a few different tuning houses suggesting 300hp is achievable without major work.

We'll see.. should be some interesting developments.

So does that mean you're now considering options for tune + DP?


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[Dutch77]

So does that mean you're now considering options for tune + DP?

Sheez, how many threads are you going to chase and harass me on this issue? No mods.

Although 300 horses does intrigue me.

FWIW here's a link to someone who has already done some tuning work on the Mk7, although they're utilising some more significant hardware upgrades as well to get to the 300hp figure: HG Motorsport tunes the Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk7 - PerformanceDrive

[parso_rex]

And you guys think that the GTI will pick up 60kW with just a tune so many times in the past the claims have been out there only to proven wrong or wildly fictitious time and time again on both dyno and dragstrip. Bascially take everything out of Europe with a bucket of salt.

If this were possible then it would be a major design flaw in the cars choice/design of the turbo charger to suit the stock application, it would mean that in every instance the turbo would be a lot laggier that it could otherwise have been.
Still I"ll gladly take a 60kW unicorn figure if it ever came to be.

[Dutch77]

And you guys think that the GTI will pick up 60kW with just a tune so many times in the past the claims have been out there only to proven wrong or wildly fictitious time and time again on both dyno and dragstrip. Bascially take everything out of Europe with a bucket of salt.

Couldn't agree more.. I would be expecting similar gains as to Mk6 - perhaps less on the more valuable torque front given VW have obviously upgraded stock performance significantly in that regard already.

Any news on when tunes are going to become available?

[tigger73]

Sheez, how many threads are you going to chase and harass me on this issue? No mods.

Although 300 horses does intrigue me.

Hey I wasn't the one that was suggesting that you'd want a DP and tune... if the mk7 was anything like the mk6.

Of course I know you said that you weren't going to mod your GTI and I respect that. Anyone that can leave their car stock has far more self control than me


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[parso_rex]

The guys I work with overseas have had the factory Damos files for some time now which means from a tuners point of view you can then in theory access all the required maps that you need to modify BUT what we don't have is a way to read and write the file from and then back to the ECU. APR have a bit of a head start here as VW of America gave them the RSA keys (lucky b@stards ) so they would be the first option to come to the party one would think.
I have a few ex golf R owners with S3's now keenly waiting on some options but at the moment its only the interceptor devices which pretty much all come out of the one place in Germany. I'm fairly sure Superchips will have one of those shortly.

[Ramee]

I heard that Golf R Mk7 has a bigger IHI turbo than the K04 turbo came with MK6 Golf R. Also new R has upgraded fuel pump as well. So I think stage 1 tune will be massive jump when they are tuned!

[parso_rex]

Yes except that the engine is still a 2L so if you want to make more power you typically have to run a bigger turbo. A turbo is essentially an air pump with a specified cfm rating and that value determines effectively what power you can theoretically generate (everything else being equal). At the end of the day the smaller turbo makes less top end power but spools earlier and the bigger turbo spools later and makes more top end power. Lag does not equal a good daily driver and that of course equates to sales. You can of course apply some cool modifications to improve spool and that way you can to a point keep that larger top end power figure by using the larger turbo and this appears to be what they have done by integrating the whole manifold internally pretty much. Yes it will be interesting to see what they have done but I'll err on the conservative side for now and hope for more