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  • Any tune out there without bench flash

    I want a TDI tune but don't want to get the ecu bench flashed. I have the new ecu that doesn't like obd flash

  • #2
    Originally posted by cru22z View Post
    I want a TDI tune but don't want to get the ecu bench flashed. I have the new ecu that doesn't like obd flash
    Well Alientech just released a whole lot of new MK6 diesel tunes on OBD that were previously bench, and I currently have "test" OBD tunes for cars like the GTD and bluemotions. Just a matter of time.....
    2014 Skoda Yeti TDI Outdoor 4x4 | Audi Q3 CFGC repower | Darkside tune and Race Cams | Darkside dump pDPF | Wagner Comp IC | Snow Water Meth | Bilstein B6 H&R springs | Rays Homura 2x7 18 x 8" 255 Potenza Sports | Golf R subframe | Superpro sways and bushings | 034 engine mounts | MK6 GTI brakes |

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    • #3
      Where can I get info on this please??

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      • #4
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Greg Roles View Post
          Well Alientech just released a whole lot of new MK6 diesel tunes on OBD that were previously bench, and I currently have "test" OBD tunes for cars like the GTD and bluemotions. Just a matter of time.....
          Hey Greg, What sort of gains can be had on a MK6 GTD? With or without down pipe?

          Cheers
          Volvo S60 RD T6

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          • #6
            Alientech is just the reading and writing tools Viezu, and a lot of tuning companies use at a dealer level, it's basically just an old style modem. The software lets you select a particular car, and all it does is adjust the baud rate amongst other things to "talk" to the car.

            These guys crack a car, by working out a route into the programming gate all ECU "chips" have. That is not always so easy, hence some cars remain bench tune, where you have to connect directly to the ECU board, or tuners have to open it up and enable OBD physically - which is the same lid opening risky affair.

            The MK6 diesels are limited by the DPF for the time being, so you will get a mid level tune from anyone. On the GTD you will see approx 35hp and 75 nm. Without a DPF you would be able to push more like 45hp and 100 nm plus, but this sort of tune with a DPF in place will prematurely clog the DPF. I currently run a crazy 120nm plus race tune, and my DPF cycle has dropped from approx 800k between regents to 400. It's not something released to the public because of this big downside.

            You can't legally put a down pipe on a DPF equipped car YET, as until I perfect it, there is no high flow DPF option available from anyone. You can delete the DPF, I don't offer that given the illegal nature and the other downsides, but currently that is your only "dump pipe" option. VERY obvious mod to risk your new car warranty though, and again not something I would recommend.
            Last edited by Greg Roles; 10-07-2013, 07:45 AM.
            2014 Skoda Yeti TDI Outdoor 4x4 | Audi Q3 CFGC repower | Darkside tune and Race Cams | Darkside dump pDPF | Wagner Comp IC | Snow Water Meth | Bilstein B6 H&R springs | Rays Homura 2x7 18 x 8" 255 Potenza Sports | Golf R subframe | Superpro sways and bushings | 034 engine mounts | MK6 GTI brakes |

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            • #7
              Cheers Greg, never really understood what the dpf was just googled it and now all is good. Does this apply to the MK5 as well?
              Volvo S60 RD T6

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              • #8
                Only the 125kw versions.
                2014 Skoda Yeti TDI Outdoor 4x4 | Audi Q3 CFGC repower | Darkside tune and Race Cams | Darkside dump pDPF | Wagner Comp IC | Snow Water Meth | Bilstein B6 H&R springs | Rays Homura 2x7 18 x 8" 255 Potenza Sports | Golf R subframe | Superpro sways and bushings | 034 engine mounts | MK6 GTI brakes |

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by thezoneR32 View Post
                  Cheers Greg, never really understood what the dpf was just googled it and now all is good. Does this apply to the MK5 as well?
                  The 103kW Mk5 Golfs incl. 1.9TDI Mk5 don't have the DPF.
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                  • #10
                    Cheers Miro. I never considered a diesel before but I drove a 103kw tdi with an ecu tune the other day and man did that thing have some grunt off the mark! I imagine the 125kw would be even better.
                    Volvo S60 RD T6

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                    • #11
                      Man I wish someone can get this obd tune up and running on this md17 ecus without being bench flashed. I want more power!

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                      • #12
                        Sorry for the hijack -

                        Why would you not want a bench tune? Is it just the inconvenience of the car being immobile for some time or am I missing something?
                        MKV Golf 2.0 TDI DSG Sportline. Just nice.

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                        • #13
                          This is all from memory.

                          The VW specialist in Kensington deals in Revo tunes and does bench flashing... $799 for the tune plus $150 for the bench flash, which takes something like two hours.
                          So I figured I'll just take the Female to dinner in the city so she doesn't yell at me for buying "more useless car cr@p"
                          2012 Octavia vRS TDI. Darkside big turbo, 3bar tune, other stuff. 200kW/650Nm.
                          1990 Mk1 Cabrio. 1.9 IDI w/ 18PSI.
                          1985 Mazda T3500 adventuremobile. 1973 Superbug. 1972 Volvo 144 in poo-brown.
                          Not including hers...

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                          • #14
                            The problem with bench tune for me is that when I send it to the
                            Dealership for servicing they can easily wipe out the tune. This is why I prefer an obd tune so I can load it or remove when I take car in for servicing

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cru22z View Post
                              The problem with bench tune for me is that when I send it to the
                              Dealership for servicing they can easily wipe out the tune. This is why I prefer an obd tune so I can load it or remove when I take car in for servicing
                              Not if you tell them.
                              Performance Tunes from $850
                              Wrecking RS OCTAVIA 2 Link

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